2016 Postmortem

Demsrule86

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55. It is not all about Florida...although that was bad enough

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 08:31 AM

Aug 2016

The bottomline is if Nader had not run and had not been on the ballot in Florida, Gore would have won. But, the Greens spent over a year trashing Gore and saying he was the same as Bush...he wasn't the same and how many Americans suffered and died because of Green lies? I despise the Greens and consider them completely useless... they not help advance the progressive movement -in fact you can lay United among other bad laws at their door thanks to Bush's election, and hey actively work against the progressive agenda:sometimes for money...they have taken money in Pennsylvania and Texas from the GOP in order to act as a spoiler and Nader was funded by the right wing as well...so spare me any Green talking points because I can't stand this faux party of nothing.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/more-gop-green-party-ties-found/nRt8C/

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/10/25/green_politics_pennsylvania_greens_take_gop

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538: "Down-Ballot Democrats Should Go After Johnson And Stein Voters" [View all] Attorney in Texas Aug 2016 OP

"we know little about the partisan makeup of Johnson’s and Stein’s voters..." R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #1

Right they might as well take their vote and flush it... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #3

It's their vote(s). They can do with it as they see fit, but... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #4

The Dems do have a better strategy but it sounds like you haven't been listening? bettyellen Aug 2016 #8

Try re-reading post #3. While you're at it read the OP as well. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #9

You think DUers are formulating or executing the campaign strategy? Lol nope. bettyellen Aug 2016 #10

I don't recall writing anything of the sort, and frankly I'm glad that they aren't...hopefully. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #11

It seems like you are still having a hard time moving past the primaries bettyellen Aug 2016 #12

Again, this is not about me. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #13

With all your complaints about insults it does sound very personal to you.... bettyellen Aug 2016 #14

I know it must be hard, but try re-re-reading the OP and what it says. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #15

If being snide and looking down on people floats your boat..... bettyellen Aug 2016 #24

LOL! Ok! Thou doth protest too much. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #26

Your posts are snide and reek of a bitterness, yes they doth! bettyellen Aug 2016 #29

Seems both sides here prefer losing to being courteous. Hortensis Aug 2016 #40

Check out post #1. It was curteous. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #45

Yes, Attorney in Texas was courteous and informative. Hortensis Aug 2016 #47

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #48

Opinions vary... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #44

Lol. OMG, so much projection. I can't even. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #53

Sure they can, but don't call yourself progressive if you plan to vote for any third party candidate Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #34

I am fairly progressive...TY very much. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #46

If you are saying you plan to vote third party and I hope you are not... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #54

A complete waste of time to go after Green voters. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #2

Some will come around...even without the insults. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #6

I have nothing for Greens but contempt...they accomplish nothing Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #35

How did they give us Bush? 8% of registered Democrats Exilednight Aug 2016 #39

I'm not blaming, but don't forget that Ralph Nader's Hortensis Aug 2016 #42

It is not all about Florida...although that was bad enough Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #55

Agree. But considering some went Green mainly Hortensis Aug 2016 #41

I believe the vast majority of those who consider themselves Green have already still_one Aug 2016 #51

This is good Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #5

We may get some Johnson voters GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #7

Exactly. KMOD Aug 2016 #17

This is not what 538 says: Greens would go heavily Dem. Hortensis Aug 2016 #43

It makes no sense for Democrats to try to appeal to libertarians -- who don't believe pnwmom Aug 2016 #16

Right. And my take about the libertarian voters is Hortensis Aug 2016 #49

The reality is they have two choices KMOD Aug 2016 #18

People can vote for whomever they want. Right? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #19

Yes. But I can still think they are an idiot. KMOD Aug 2016 #21

Free country and all. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #23

Idiots scare me. KMOD Aug 2016 #27

Do you know any of them? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #28

Personally? no. KMOD Aug 2016 #30

I see idiots... tonedevil Aug 2016 #31

Yes, people can even vote for Trump if they want oberliner Aug 2016 #22

Really? Convincing? Devoted? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #25

Well, they're idiots for a reason. grossproffit Aug 2016 #20

The real issue is that PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #32

They lose me with their message. KMOD Aug 2016 #33

Word salad that has zero to do with the article posted Capt. Obvious Aug 2016 #37

since you have stated on this site that you would vote for n "down ticket but not the top" Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #36

One has to work hard to even find a Stein voter. There just aren't many. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #38

But liberals are NICE people. :) Seriously, we all have Hortensis Aug 2016 #50

Stein voters are the modern Know-Nothings. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #52