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2016 Postmortem

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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:16 AM Jul 2016

Embrace Code Pink, Bernie or Bust, Jill Stein and any others who position Hillary-Kaine as centrists [View all]

Republicans want to paint Hillary as an out-of-the-mainstream liberal (or socialist).

Hillary could either respond "damn right" or she could respond "you're wrong, my views are mainstream American values."

Had Hillary chosen Warren as her running mate, we might conclude that Hillary had chosen the "damn right" path, but Hillary's choice of Kaine tells us that Hillary is reaching out to the center.

If you want to be perceived as a centrist, you need people who oppose you on your right (the whole Republican Party) and your left (Code Pink and Green Party, etc.). Now that Warren and Sanders are 100% behind Hillary, the Republicans would have more success labeling Hillary as "out of the mainstream" if there was no one pushing back at Hillary from her left.

This is the ideal situation: Hillary has opponents who say she's too far to the right but they are only a small 3% to 5% segment of the vote. Don't just accept this; embrace it because this is a part of the definition of "mainstream."

LBJ had a small group of opponents on his left, Carter had a small group of opponents on his left, Bill had a small group of opponents on his left, Obama had a small group of opponents on his left, and they all did just fine. We live in a democracy. We should foresee and accept that our system of government -- the best system yet invented by the human mind -- will and must encompass a broad range of opinions and competing visions for the role of our government.

We cannot claim to represent the mainstream in one breath and -- in the very next breath -- express outrage and surprise that there are some to our left whose views are outside of our mainstream vision.

Embrace the fact that Hillary has chosen a position where she sits in the center with some few on her left and many others on her right.

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No, I'm not going to embrace Bernie or Bust. DanTex Jul 2016 #1
Trump refuses to embrace the fact of global warming. What good does that do him? We can refuse to Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #3
Bernie or Bust isn't a fact, it's a group of people. So I don't get the GW analogy. DanTex Jul 2016 #17
No lamp_shade Jul 2016 #2
gobbledygook OKNancy Jul 2016 #4
You can't occupy both the far left and also the center. Support Hillary's choice to seek the center Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #6
Nonsense RonniePudding Jul 2016 #5
Jill Stein is a grandstanding attention-seeker, nothing more. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #7
Only in America a pro trade and deregulation is considered liberal. JRLeft Jul 2016 #9
Hillary and Tim are centrists, but B.O.B. isn't that big of a group. JRLeft Jul 2016 #8
They're a very small group. Expecting unanimity is an unrealistic goal. We should accept the support Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #10
Still stings, huh? nt LexVegas Jul 2016 #11
I don't lump Code Pink in with those other complete fools as you have. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #12
I'm only including Code Pink because they are in Philadelphia protesting Hillary's nomination from Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #13
Yes, Code Pink is protesting from the left and has a cause. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #14
Are you saying the Green Party does not have a cause? Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #15
I never said the Green Party has no cause. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #16
Hillary picked the most liberal senator according to the ratings Renew Deal Jul 2016 #18
Lame rule skirting alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #19
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