2016 Postmortem

99th_Monkey

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54. So much for Intra-party collegiality.

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 03:02 PM

Jul 2016

Look, Hillary and Bernie BOTH conspired to make history with their highly spirited and competitive
Primary race, a race that could easily and graceful end finally at the convention in Philly, where (by
definition) is WHEN the actual Democratic Nominee is selected. ...Not after the last
state's primary.

And certainly not when petulant Hillary supporters loudly demand it; because they've been demanding
that ever since Bernie announced.

When looked at from this perspective, one wonders who is jeopardizing Democratic unity and harmony,
and who isn't.

On Edit: Case in point: the TPP. When campaigning Hillary said she now opposed it. Is it so unreasonable
to allow Bernie to get that in the Dem Platform .. based on Hillary's own latest public statements?

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Sanders on Clinton endorsement: 'We are not there at this moment' [View all] GeorgiaPeanuts Jul 2016 OP

NPR has an interview with Biden on this weekend. Excerpts were played this morning. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1

Yeah this article is about the interview Sanders gave... GeorgiaPeanuts Jul 2016 #2

Ain't gonna happen. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #102

He is working hard to make himself irrelevant. nt JTFrog Jul 2016 #3

Pretty sure that already happened metroins Jul 2016 #5

Yep. Warren made sure of that. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #32

That happened when Warren jumped in with both feet...nt SidDithers Jul 2016 #8

Personally, I think it happened prior to Warren. Warren just made it that much more glaringly seabeyond Jul 2016 #12

I think he is working hard to make sure that the next Democratic president will not be one Cal33 Jul 2016 #9

He is not 'working' toward anything right now. randome Jul 2016 #13

Over rules more than once, and from different avenues. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #14

Yes. He is working hard to make sure that there will be no continuation of the status quo. Is Cal33 Jul 2016 #20

And the majority disagree with Sanders regardless how you try to preface seabeyond Jul 2016 #21

He does not get to dictate anything to the DNC. randome Jul 2016 #23

24 years in Congress cast perfectly as the crazy uncle. annavictorious Jul 2016 #55

The majority of the American people are for Sanders. Politicians are politicians, and Cal33 Jul 2016 #68

Used to be for him but he's messing things up for the Dem Party and helping Trump. The race is kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #91

As far as the General Election is concerned, Trump is beyond help. Nobody can help him, least Cal33 Jul 2016 #96

No, the majority of the American people are not for sanders. He lost. How do you come up with that seabeyond Jul 2016 #92

That was for the Primaries. We are now talking about the General Election, Cal33 Jul 2016 #97

Ah. I do not count the chickens before they hatch. It isn't productive and often not correct. seabeyond Jul 2016 #98

sure ok he's trying to do that qazplm Jul 2016 #59

The politicians don't think so, but the majority of the people do. That is why he Cal33 Jul 2016 #71

His endorsement is largely irrelevant at this point (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #4

If Sanders' endorsement is so "irrelevant", why are Hillary supporters being so surly about it? 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #36

He's only conditionally irrelevant. Depends which of the 2 prongs is under discussion at the moment. JudyM Jul 2016 #39

Very well said JudyM. Very well said. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #51

Ha, yes. Yes you did. Thank you but I wish it weren't the truth. JudyM Jul 2016 #63

Because he could have been relevant, if he had shown some class. Its just sad. (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #41

I agree Bernie could have been relevant 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #43

Beautiful Post... GeorgiaPeanuts Jul 2016 #46

Thanks GeorgiaPeanuts. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #48

He coulda been a contender. He coulda been somebody. brush Jul 2016 #77

And the continued press Lazy Daisy Jul 2016 #60

The people on DU and other progressive or liberal wonks are the only ones who care at this point. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #93

Elizabeth Warren filled his shoes. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #6

I think Bernie ran only after it became sure that Elizabeth was not running. Furthermore, Cal33 Jul 2016 #15

But they're working separately instead of together. randome Jul 2016 #16

Bernie & Elizabeth seem to "get" one another just fine, and are strong allies 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #49

Sanders was on Chris Hayes, and did not deny VP Joe Biden's claim that he would endorse still_one Jul 2016 #7

I no longer want his endorsement. I think now, his endorsement hurts, literally will hurt Clinton. seabeyond Jul 2016 #10

You can't really believe that. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #40

I do believe it. Sanders has made his endorsement toxic and insulting. Which is just wrong. seabeyond Jul 2016 #44

Why would anyone be such a sore winner? 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #45

Sanders is not the one due. seabeyond Jul 2016 #50

So much for Intra-party collegiality. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #54

I made my point in my first post. Reiterated my point in the second post. seabeyond Jul 2016 #57

Yes it is unreasonable. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #67

I find it offensive the way you keep minimizing Hillary's victory. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #65

Everybody is so hungry for that sound bite that they keep asking a question he's already answered. Orsino Jul 2016 #11

Really. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #80

He's irrelevant now MaggieD Jul 2016 #17

Doesn't appear to be that way to me GeorgiaPeanuts Jul 2016 #18

Sorry, but most of those Sanders voters have already switched to Hillary lunamagica Jul 2016 #24

What does that have to do with my comment? GeorgiaPeanuts Jul 2016 #25

It sounded to me like you said that 45% of Sanders voters were his leverage to get what he wants lunamagica Jul 2016 #30

I am saying he has 45% of the pledged delegates and he intends to fight... GeorgiaPeanuts Jul 2016 #33

LOL - may I inject some reality? MaggieD Jul 2016 #28

The most liberal nominee in our lifetimes? lancer78 Jul 2016 #35

Absolutely MaggieD Jul 2016 #69

He is still lancer78 Jul 2016 #79

He also couldn't bust enough chops... MaggieD Jul 2016 #87

Some of us were alive back in 1972... John Poet Jul 2016 #58

+1000! mcar Jul 2016 #73

Some of you people who are on the side of the winners of the Democratic Primaries, seem to Cal33 Jul 2016 #22

Oh, give it a rest LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #26

OKay. I'm all for both sides stopping it. Cal33 Jul 2016 #27

Nobody is going to stop; each side will find some post that lets them say "they won't quit it!" LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #31

Honestly I would have NOTHING to say about it if..... MaggieD Jul 2016 #29

Yep. He's acting like a diva. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #94

If Bernie is so "irrelevant", why does anyone give a flying fuck whether he endorses or not? 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #42

Lots of truth there. n/t bvf Jul 2016 #61

I think most of us don't give a "flying fuck" at this point MaggieD Jul 2016 #70

You've failed to answer the simple question: If you don't give a "flying fuck" then .. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #81

I enjoy my candidate winning.... MaggieD Jul 2016 #88

No one is asking you to "pretend Bernie won". That's ridiculous on its face. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #89

That's how I see these kind of posts MaggieD Jul 2016 #90

Cause he's not keeping his word in doing "everything" to make sure tRump loses uponit7771 Jul 2016 #75

Bernie will kiss Hillary's ring when he's damned good and ready to 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #82

Keeping his word = "kiss her ring"!? Really?! Come on man, that's not called for... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #85

Bernie is fighting the good fight, and is far from being "irrelevant" 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #86

Sanders is dissing ALL Democrats, Clinton and taking credit where not due. That doesn't get respect seabeyond Jul 2016 #95

Some will never give Bernie respect, even when it's fully earned. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #99

It is your opinion he earned that respect, and others disagree with you. seabeyond Jul 2016 #100

...and when it comes to the Convention, he won't be "there" either... brooklynite Jul 2016 #19

I don't think that will happen. David__77 Jul 2016 #34

He's happy to dis-endorse Trump. Jester Messiah Jul 2016 #37

Sour grapes. Now is the time for all good Democrats to come to the aid of the Party ericson00 Jul 2016 #38

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #47

Good Politicalboi Jul 2016 #52

Hope he enjoys the speaking slot MFM008 Jul 2016 #53

Please don't Bernie. We wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2016 #56

I said some weeks ago that I wondered if BS was going to go Nader on us... not necessarily meaning a Bill USA Jul 2016 #62

I think "we are not there at this moment" is a good thing musicblind Jul 2016 #64

I think the announcement that the FBI okasha Jul 2016 #72

Sanders will endorse when the platform moves left to protect onecaliberal Jul 2016 #83

Does anyone think that if the situation were reversed... SidDithers Jul 2016 #66

+1, she didn't... she quickly endorsed Obama uponit7771 Jul 2016 #76

I think she would be openly mocked. bettyellen Jul 2016 #103

That's cool. EDUB's endorsement is way way more important bravenak Jul 2016 #74

Everyone just walk away RandySF Jul 2016 #78

+100 ... thank you. 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #84

well.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #101