2016 Postmortem

jamese777

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52. From Yesterday's Washington Post:

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:56 PM

Jun 2016

"Donald Trump’s bad month just got worse, because Sanders backers just rallied to Clinton"

Donald Trump would like for Bernie Sanders supporters to ditch the Democratic Party and support him. There is very little evidence that they will do that, mind you, but it's certainly possible that they might just stay home — which would help Trump.

Well, we have some bad news for the Trump campaign. Sanders supporters aren't just rallying around Clinton; they're doing it rather quickly. And it's a big reason Clinton just extended her lead over Trump into the double digits, 51 percent to 39 percent.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that Sanders backers, who polls have shown were reluctant to jump over to Clinton and even flirted with supporting Trump, are coming home faster than we might have expected.

Last month, 20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election. This month, that figure is down to 8 percent.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/26/donald-trumps-bad-month-just-got-worse-because-bernie-backers-just-rallied-to-clinton/

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WaPo: "Bernie Sanders just gave an amazingly condescending interview about Hillary Clinton" [View all] EffieBlack Jun 2016 OP

Still talking down to her .... n/t cosmicone Jun 2016 #1

A very nasty, bitter interview. NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #5

Andrea asked if he shares the praise that Eliz Warren gave her yesterday-Sanders ignored riversedge Jun 2016 #59

Bernie prolly has hard feelins ova the way Hillary treated him, but he must get past that & make certain that asswipe tRump gets nowhere near the White House. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #83

I thought she treated him with kid gloves woolldog Jun 2016 #129

It really doesn't matter at this point... what matters is that fuckwad tRump gets his racist ass handed to him come November. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #137

She did everything but put a mint on his pillow and leave milk & cookies Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #157

Yes, yes she did. And he should. Hekate Jun 2016 #224

Ha! good on Andrea for showing the clip of Elizabeth and Hillary from yesterday! Cha Jun 2016 #144

Here's the Video Night Watchman Jun 2016 #239

As many of Hillary's supporters have noted, the Washington Post can't be trusted... Human101948 Jun 2016 #2

Do you have any evidence the Sanders was misquoted in this piece? EffieBlack Jun 2016 #6

I saw the interview live. The WaPo piece is factually correct. Adrahil Jun 2016 #24

I agree with you, but you're right, people should watch it themselves LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #46

Always said The Washington Post is a RW trash publication. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #85

bernie is no longer relevant by his own hand. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #3

That made me think of something entirely different cosmicone Jun 2016 #17

stop it MariaThinks Jun 2016 #33

I disagree; he's still pulling for us (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #48

I think the accusation is that he's tooting his own horn. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #67

Warren is. Bernie is not MariaThinks Jun 2016 #74

It was a pun, bsed on cosmicone's reponse to your post LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #76

that was funny. Sorry i missed it MariaThinks Jun 2016 #82

You're kiddin right? InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #86

I haven't gotten a donation request email from him since the end of May. Svafa Jun 2016 #207

How is "pulling a Nader" pulling for us? kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #91

he is pulling a nader and feels entitled MariaThinks Jun 2016 #223

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #227

This part right here: bravenak Jun 2016 #4

+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #7

+1 MaggieD Jun 2016 #120

Yeah he gives himself a ton of credit doesn't he? It's interesting that he doesn't realize she bettyellen Jun 2016 #128

He also doesn't realize that he can claim moral superiority all he wants, but his actions eastwestdem Jun 2016 #210

Yeah it's like the claim he is better on choice- for having an opinion no one shares.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #218

You quote the characterization of Sanders' words Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #149

what "great" words about Hillary did he say in this interview? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #158

None because Bernie Sanders isn't a Clinton surrogate. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #159

He told the damn truth Armstead Jun 2016 #173

It is not great. You missed it. It shows his weakness. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #191

I agree. brer cat Jun 2016 #165

+1 from me, too pandr32 Jun 2016 #202

At this point, the only choice is to lock him out of the convention. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #8

That should work out well for party unity. Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #22

At what point does his refusal to accept the party nominee... Adrahil Jun 2016 #27

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #31

Oh c'mon.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #36

Oh, no, a politician is trying to leverage clout? Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #43

He's already formally lost. The nomination is just the medal ceremony Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #160

His call, of course, but he's losing clout daily. Adrahil Jun 2016 #184

Nailed it. Svafa Jun 2016 #213

Exactly MaggieD Jun 2016 #121

No. He can not win. KMOD Jun 2016 #49

And Hillary has not yet, by the rules, won. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #60

It's inevitable. KMOD Jun 2016 #62

That's fine. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #65

Keep telling yourself that. GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #171

I don't need to. I'm not the one obsessed with Bernie Sanders and his daily actions/interviews. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #181

Yes, and there's not enough evidence to establish Anthropogenic Climate Change. Adrahil Jun 2016 #185

I really don't understand the Bernie obsession. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #197

Technically, Bernie is still in the running, but practically speaking, he needs to get behind the presumptive nominee. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #88

Who says he is not accepting her as the nominee Armstead Jun 2016 #175

This is not the way to do it. He will get no where as an outsider AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #193

Won't get anywhere as a sycophant, that 's for sure Armstead Jun 2016 #221

The remaining holdouts will never come over any way MohRokTah Jun 2016 #29

At least you are honest about the upcoming pivot to the right Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #34

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It's Sanders' fault that we now have to. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #47

That's one of the silliest things I have read in quite some time. Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #51

Then your sense of silly is out of kilter MohRokTah Jun 2016 #58

I agree. If Hiilary cannot win over that 8%, she has to go elsewhere to moderates. It's a shame kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #101

Sanders does not seem to want LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #104

I second that. Btw - he still lists himself as an Independent on his FB page (Senator Sanders). Native Jun 2016 #124

If "unity" means blind obedience and only one opinion ever allowed.... Armstead Jun 2016 #179

I don't believe I said LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #205

+1 Svafa Jun 2016 #214

He's just saying things he's said before, but Washington Post loves starting drama realmirage Jun 2016 #9

He may have said these things when he was in a contest w/Clinton. But the primary's over and he lost EffieBlack Jun 2016 #11

We all know he's doing political theater to get leverage over the convention. realmirage Jun 2016 #32

Sanders' appeal is his consistency. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #151

It has gotten worse since Jeff Bezos took over still_one Jun 2016 #12

Enquirer is better. 840high Jun 2016 #37

Exactly. The WaPo churns out anti-Sanders garbage. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #150

Chris Cillizza, an OP-Ed columnist, is the author of the column... DonViejo Jun 2016 #164

And Cillizza hates HRC mcar Jun 2016 #226

The same writer who invented "Mad Bitch Beer" for Hillary? arcane1 Jun 2016 #10

Yes, attack the source instead of addressing what Sanders said. EffieBlack Jun 2016 #13

Yes, and the writer attaches his own meaning to them. It's his opinion. He's attacking the source nt arcane1 Jun 2016 #16

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #23

No he raised valid issues that needed to be raised Armstead Jun 2016 #182

Truths are no longer good things, apparently n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #201

And the story provided a link to the original interview (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #57

There's a definite sense of entitlement in his tone. He truly doesn't get that he lost. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #14

Agreed Gothmog Jun 2016 #139

"Clinton and her campaign have been generally fine with all of this.." Buzz cook Jun 2016 #15

Bernie for me= LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #18

How is this for condescension? rateyes Jun 2016 #19

Well since he doesn't kowtow he is whistler162 Jun 2016 #38

Yes, he is! rateyes Jun 2016 #41

The base voted for Hillary. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #55

Uh huh. Ok. rateyes Jun 2016 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author LAS14 Jun 2016 #75

The base voted for Clinton 64/35 TwilightZone Jun 2016 #115

Total votes according to the were 15.5M to 12.8M not 2 to 1 Armstead Jun 2016 #186

That 8% is not the base. They are in the left margin. The base is minorities, the gblt, women. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #127

I am to the point I don't care is Sanders speaks at the convention or not Hokie Jun 2016 #20

Read the Gawd Damn interview, it wasn't condescending. JRLeft Jun 2016 #42

Chris Cilizza has never been a Clinton fan. spooky3 Jun 2016 #84

That interview was incredibly condescending Gothmog Jun 2016 #140

Bingo. Sanders says the same things as in his stump speech Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #153

Which proves the articles point; the primary contest is over and "demands" by someone who has uponit7771 Jun 2016 #169

+1 MaggieD Jun 2016 #123

+1!! Cha Jun 2016 #145

I'm sure that Sanders will come around soon. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #21

That's a whole hell of a lot of poetic license by Cillizza Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #25

Reading between the lines Cillizza whistler162 Jun 2016 #40

Chris Cillizza taking offense because he's paid to Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #26

Bullshit. Nothing wrong with those quotes in the article. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #28

I disagree, he's placing the onus on Clinton to make sure he plays his part as if he ... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #102

Careful how you characterize that.... Armstead Jun 2016 #187

Most are not though, the "flocking" is such because of the rate relative to 08... not even close uponit7771 Jun 2016 #198

Do you think just because they will vote for Clinton over Trump, glowing Jun 2016 #189

I hope not, that's why they'll put their energy were it technically counts other than the office uponit7771 Jun 2016 #199

This is why I don't understand the pushback? glowing Jun 2016 #208

Push back is from people who just don't believe he was the guy to bring all that ... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #216

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #30

There was nothing condescending in that interview but the writer of the article JRLeft Jun 2016 #35

I didn't take the author's word for it, I watched the interview myself. I agree withthe author LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #64

To be honest, he's losing me. liberalmuse Jun 2016 #39

Seen what? The media spin? ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #50

On second look this is a bit of rat fuckery Buzz cook Jun 2016 #44

This is just WaPo stirring the shit pokerfan Jun 2016 #111

From Yesterday's Washington Post: jamese777 Jun 2016 #52

Yeap, twice the rate of Clinton to Obama in 08...Sanders movement has moved on uponit7771 Jun 2016 #100

I am not sure most, or any of you, actually read the article. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #53

The article included a link to the original interview; I watched it, and I agree with Cillizza (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #61

I agree. LAS14 Jun 2016 #79

this is condescending? Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #54

No, it's not condescending. It's straightforward and honest. LAS14 Jun 2016 #73

I still don't get the strategy mcar Jun 2016 #56

Right!? He has no real leverage and his supporters are flocking to Clinton at twice the rate... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #99

I am glad he still wants to transform the party. He is keeping his eye on the ball. Vattel Jun 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2016 #70

It's not "his" party to transform. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #89

That says it all. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #106

Why did you put quotation marks around "his"? Vattel Jun 2016 #108

BAM! There it is, Nance delivered it personally on a silver platter Number23 Jun 2016 #119

Perfect!! Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #126

I have to agree CajunBlazer Jun 2016 #132

+1000 kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #142

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jun 2016 #146

Oh so a person cannot change his or her mind? AllyCat Jun 2016 #147

Not people who chide others for doing so uponit7771 Jun 2016 #168

Yup. He's evolving farleftlib Jun 2016 #211

Yeeaah Svafa Jun 2016 #212

That is what I see too. It's fine to bash AllyCat Jun 2016 #230

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #233

He is a registered Democrat AllyCat Jun 2016 #235

Only when it served ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #236

Then why is he still one? AllyCat Jun 2016 #238

THIS could not be better stated!! Nt AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #242

He's transformed me ..... against the far left .... first Nader then Sanders....they uponit7771 Jun 2016 #94

The far left can survive without your support. Vattel Jun 2016 #109

And there is part of the problem ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #136

Do you ever tire of straw men? Vattel Jun 2016 #162

Okay, let's pretend ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #234

And there it is, the dishonest reply that I have come to expect. Vattel Jun 2016 #240

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #167

Barnie Frank is right Renew Deal Jun 2016 #68

He could have played a yuuuugggeeee role MFM008 Jun 2016 #69

This is the perfect example between Loki Jun 2016 #71

Eh. I think it was OK. I took him at his word. He's keeping... LAS14 Jun 2016 #72

He'll have no tangible leverage... he can't do anything and his supporters are flocking to Clinton a uponit7771 Jun 2016 #96

First off The Fix has always been broken Wash. state Desk Jet Jun 2016 #77

Is WaPo a tabloid now? runaway hero Jun 2016 #78

NY Post would have published that anti-Sanders opinion Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #155

Color me shocked liberal N proud Jun 2016 #80

Some think there will be an indictment and that is why he lingers nest Jun 2016 #81

+1, The FBI Never claimed to be investigating her anyway uponit7771 Jun 2016 #98

If half of this is true then I'm disappointed uponit7771 Jun 2016 #87

He's still views Democrats and Hillary in an adversarial way. DCBob Jun 2016 #90

Wonder what he thinks of Elizabeth Warren, then. randome Jun 2016 #113

Yeah. I wonder that too. DCBob Jun 2016 #117

We all know what he thinks of Elizabeth Warren. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #243

Exactly this! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #195

Not for nuthin', but ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #92

Sounds like he's on replay, doesn't it? randome Jun 2016 #105

Exactly. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #131

Sanders continues to place the onus on Clinton for making sure he does his part uponit7771 Jun 2016 #93

Understand.. speaktruthtopower Jun 2016 #95

He can't demand anything without some leverage...now he has little and uponit7771 Jun 2016 #97

How is this condescending? Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #103

Because it was a straightforward question he refused to answer. randome Jun 2016 #107

Telling the reporter that she doesn't ask the right question isn't condescending? MADem Jun 2016 #190

Has he ever said anything nice about Warren? (Maybe I'm not using the right search terms.) randome Jun 2016 #194

Not that I've heard. MADem Jun 2016 #196

Who? Beausoir Jun 2016 #110

I thought Bernie sounded magnanimous F. Kafka Jun 2016 #112

He said he's voting for her, but he won't endorse her; that seems to be the extent LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #116

Conceding that Hillary won is within his power. So is endorsing her. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #135

Exactly and I find it sexist as hell MaggieD Jun 2016 #114

I'm a huge Clinton supporter, but I think the sexist accusations are over done CajunBlazer Jun 2016 #134

LOL! Like anyone actually cares Number23 Jun 2016 #118

I see no condescension in this interview. I see Andrea Mitchell asking the same question over and ov elias7 Jun 2016 #122

It was not a close primary. Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #125

i voted for Sanders JI7 Jun 2016 #130

It's clear that he will not endorse KingFlorez Jun 2016 #133

I don't see what was condescending about it democrattotheend Jun 2016 #138

Put Senator Warren on the ticket and Clinton can ignore Sanders Gothmog Jun 2016 #141

Maybe this is partly why she is being vetted. The other reason being that she is just that amazing. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #192

Senator Warren is indeed amazing and I love the way she gets under Trump's thin skin Gothmog Jun 2016 #204

What is so condesending about Bernie's statement? He said he will continue to campaign until the akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #143

The direct quotes of Sanders are great. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #148

Cillizza hates HRC mcar Jun 2016 #237

Ah, I see Scootaloo Jun 2016 #152

I've got no problem with this statement of his... David__77 Jun 2016 #156

Sorry, I don't think what he said was condescending. I think it was true. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #161

The thing they don't get about Bernie is that he cares about the people above all. Vinca Jun 2016 #163

Demanding anything after losing sounds entitled not caring at all. If he cared so much he'd be doing uponit7771 Jun 2016 #170

I guess Democrats should have just slunk off into the corner after GW Bush won Armstead Jun 2016 #178

Nope nor do I suppose GWB would've accepted Gores demands either, same here... the losing position uponit7771 Jun 2016 #200

I don't understand how anyone can be upset when someone is such a passionate advocate for the 99%. Vinca Jun 2016 #203

SuperDelegates haven't voted yet revolutionfoundation Jun 2016 #166

Chris Cilizza -- the master of condescension -- complaining about condescension? Armstead Jun 2016 #172

Yeah, Cilizza is a bit too opinionated, that's for sure. randome Jun 2016 #174

Chris Cilizza always makes my skin crawl on MSNBC Armstead Jun 2016 #176

There is a reason Elizabeth Warren is enthusiastically endorsing and campaigning for Hillary Haveadream Jun 2016 #177

It's a systemic problem that she is part and parcel of Armstead Jun 2016 #188

A systemic problem is made so by its parts Haveadream Jun 2016 #217

When do people like those asshole "journalists" ever discuss the "parts"? Armstead Jun 2016 #219

The media will always go for the lowest common denominator they can get away with Haveadream Jun 2016 #222

Well, Bernie may be simplistic inj his message....but that's neceessary at this point Armstead Jun 2016 #231

Here's a question about the Sanders campain keeps bugging me hollowdweller Jun 2016 #180

Whatever Uponthegears Jun 2016 #183

And WaPo has been amazingly condescending toward Sanders all campaign. Svafa Jun 2016 #206

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #209

For real. Chris Cillizza needs to get over himself. Svafa Jun 2016 #215

I missed the "amazingly condescending" part. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #220

That's because the "amazingly condescending" part doesn't exist. arcane1 Jun 2016 #228

It is condescending in that he will not acknowledge the fact that Hillary upaloopa Jun 2016 #229

Still biting the hand that feeds him, cloaked in invincible self-righteousness.... Hekate Jun 2016 #225

Again, tabloid nonsense runaway hero Jun 2016 #232

Thanks for getting to the heart of the matter Vattel Jun 2016 #241