2016 Postmortem

longship

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22. Let's get this straight right now.

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:48 PM

Jun 2016

Hillary Clinton should not pick any sitting US Senator for VEEP, least of all Elizabeth Warren. We desperately need her in the US Senate.

Her speech today before the ACS should underline why that is so. If you do not understand that a sitting senator has much more power than the VEEP, I probably cannot disabuse you of your delusion that Elizabeth Warren should be Hillary's VEEP candidate.

Let it stand there. And if I were Liz, I would not only say "no", I would say "Hell fucking no".

She remembers the last time that there was an open US Senate seat in MA, just like everybody here ought to. And MA has a GOP governor!

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Should Hillary Clinton pick Elizabeth Warren for V.P.? [View all] left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 OP

Yes. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #1

Nope.... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #53

She can be much more of a force as Senate majority leader. Tens of times more of a force. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2

Same thoughts here too! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #6

She is not likely to be majority leader. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #9

I'd rather have her in the Senate but she is one of very few who would help with Hillary's extreme Vote2016 Jun 2016 #76

Yes. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #3

No, two firsts rarely happen Reter Jun 2016 #4

I dunno -- we've had two men FOREVER... Sparkly Jun 2016 #7

Yes, and after all these years, both happen in one year? Reter Jun 2016 #23

Careful; It will be unfairly implied that you are sexist. Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #8

That's why I wrote it shouldn't matter Reter Jun 2016 #21

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #78

I'm going to say no. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #5

Not this cycle Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #10

That's the sweetest breath of fresh air. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #24

Tulsi Gabbard to reunite the party. kpola12 Jun 2016 #11

No way HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #34

On what? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #42

It's not just what she has said, but how she said it. HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #49

Here is an article about her that shows what you're talking about. athena Jun 2016 #69

Yes, with an economic role. Metric System Jun 2016 #12

As usual rock Jun 2016 #13

No for two reasons bbrady42 Jun 2016 #14

Mass law requires an election to fill the vacancy left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #18

Remember the last time that happened? longship Jun 2016 #25

Hopefully my state learns this time Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #60

He happened because it was an off year election. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #64

Well, they have a GOP governor. longship Jun 2016 #67

Don't think Elizabeth would accept...would be smart not to. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #15

Al Franken Generic Brad Jun 2016 #16

I would go for Al Franken. longship Jun 2016 #26

Massachusetts is a highly Democratic northern state democrattotheend Jun 2016 #37

Al Franken is a DCLer Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #74

She is far more valuable in the Senate. Big Blue Marble Jun 2016 #17

Yes toshiba783 Jun 2016 #19

Unsure... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #20

Let's get this straight right now. longship Jun 2016 #22

It depends on the relationship with the president democrattotheend Jun 2016 #39

Again, NO! Just no. We need Warren in the US Senate. longship Jun 2016 #43

^^^^ THIS RIGHT HERE!! ^^^^^ Jack Bone Jun 2016 #57

GOP Governor has no say! Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #61

I know. longship Jun 2016 #63

no msongs Jun 2016 #27

Yes, then I would no longer worry if Hillary had to leave office...for whatever reason virtualobserver Jun 2016 #28

If she did I Might consider voting for her. srobert Jun 2016 #29

I don't see her bringing much to the ticket Recursion Jun 2016 #30

re: "Clinton will want somebody...further right." Hard to keep Sanders folk motivated that way. nt thesquanderer Jun 2016 #32

Sanders folk are not who Clinton is worried about. I know that's hard to hear but it's true. Recursion Jun 2016 #33

re "Even if she takes the states Sanders won in the primary" -- not the issue. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #35

Bernie would be an Albatross in Florida kennetha Jun 2016 #40

Triangulating already? azurnoir Jun 2016 #52

Counting to 270 Recursion Jun 2016 #55

The first progressive in the White House reached that position through VP andym Jun 2016 #31

And how old was Teddy when he became POTUS? longship Jun 2016 #44

What does age have to do with it? andym Jun 2016 #47

Age? Everything when the next in succession is Speaker Paul Ryan. longship Jun 2016 #58

You mean young enough to last as President should they need to become President. andym Jun 2016 #68

You make good points... longship Jun 2016 #70

It really depends democrattotheend Jun 2016 #36

Makes total sense beltanefauve Jun 2016 #41

Too Old kennetha Jun 2016 #38

I'd just prefer someone not born in the 1940s. BlueStater Jun 2016 #45

A young boomer wouldn't be bad kennetha Jun 2016 #48

No. I'd like her to pick someone relatively young who could be elected POTUS in 2024. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #46

No, she's a former Republican who presumably voted for Reagan!? ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #50

I don't care either way. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #51

She should be president TSIAS Jun 2016 #54

She's more valuable (and powerful) in the Senate. dchill Jun 2016 #56

I like her, but no. auntpurl Jun 2016 #59

I'd rather Warren stay in the Senate (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #62

Warren is a demagogue. joshcryer Jun 2016 #65

No, we need to keep every senator we have and not look for ways to lose another seat. B Calm Jun 2016 #66

I can't overstate how strongly I oppose that. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #71

Two white women in their late sixties? No. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #72

Regradless, Warren should not bend over Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #73

No Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #75

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #77

That would be embarrassing demwing Jun 2016 #79

Last year, when many of us were begging her to run, SheilaT Jun 2016 #80

No, Warren should stay in Rincewind Jun 2016 #81

No No No No No AntiBank Jun 2016 #82

Biden as a one term caretaker VP AntiBank Jun 2016 #83