2016 Postmortem

pdsimdars

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160. BUT, WE have to not let it go. Thom Hartmann thinks it was no big deal.

Reply to Bread and Circus (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:05 PM

May 2016

I think that is naive. If you look at it from a "regular" American's perspective, they don't get all the follow up details, the retractions, etc. They don't get anything from the left.

What they got blasted form the media they watch is that Bernie supporters, again, made a violent scene that threatened Boxer and Lange. Out of control.

THAT was what was on TV for a couple of days. THAT is the impression made in their minds. How many of those people got to see that video and understand that IT DIDN'T HAPPEN? I don't think that video was played on ANY media other than online. The great mass of Americans only got the story of violence and that is all.

That is how Clinton's campaign is manipulating the discourse through MSM. And THAT is what is disgusting.

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Barbara Boxer feared for her safety the same way Hillary dodged sniper fire [View all] Bread and Circus May 2016 OP

LOL!!!! pangaia May 2016 #1

Hey Barbara , you most beloved of liberal senators UNDER THE BIG BUS !!! Florencenj2point0 May 2016 #108

She did what she did. There is no bus. pangaia May 2016 #116

She fell on her sword...probably called in a favor. libdem4life May 2016 #197

What a shame to go out lying for Hillary. Just a shame. MaeScott May 2016 #228

This has been a regretful element of libdem4life May 2016 #229

Results of your Jury Service Matrosov May 2016 #230

Thanks for the heads up. libdem4life May 2016 #231

Uhh, was the sniper thing ever disproven? scscholar May 2016 #2

Are you even remotely serious? Bread and Circus May 2016 #3

This is the mentality we are up against. dchill May 2016 #20

Last figure I saw was around 60% of those polled think she's dishonest. merrily May 2016 #54

I have to wonder how many of the hard-line Hillary supporters... dchill May 2016 #58

Don't worry about what they're thinking. merrily May 2016 #98

You should have won! Silver_Witch May 2016 #105

Decent people shouldn't support liars like Boxer. merrily May 2016 #110

She is just hoping for a cabinet seat I am sure. Silver_Witch May 2016 #216

She'll do ok.She's the mother in-law of Hillary's brother( I think that's the relationship: merrily May 2016 #218

Oh my gosh I never knew that... Silver_Witch May 2016 #220

They also say Bernie is taking us "poor' people for suckers. pangaia May 2016 #118

It's the green eyed monster. dchill May 2016 #164

Exactly... Reminds of this scene from The Grinch... Yurovsky May 2016 #170

Teaches two valuable lessons from my youth... dchill May 2016 #172

And who DOESN'T love his little dog "Max"?!??!?? Yurovsky May 2016 #176

I have concluded, sadly, that the worst of them see in her qualities they admire in themselves. sibelian May 2016 #191

Well the motivation for some of them has got to truedelphi May 2016 #222

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #124

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #205

Ah, yes Duckhunter935 May 2016 #6

Hillary herself said she "misspoke" about the "sniper fire", Art_from_Ark May 2016 #7

She "Misspoke" About It Multiple Times... That's Called A LIE. AzDar May 2016 #10

Depends on what the definition of "is" is Art_from_Ark May 2016 #11

You are correct... didn't check my Clinton-To-English Dictionary. AzDar May 2016 #14

Nice one art, you will get an award for that one. Darb May 2016 #90

Oh come on. She hadn't slept in MONTHS! Sleep depravity is series! cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #55

Sleep depravity. Best new phrase I love the turn of phrase--it works. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #122

I know I am pretty depraved when I sleep--at least when I am dreaming. Vattel May 2016 #135

DUzy! merrily May 2016 #223

Brian Williams lost his job for less n/t Scootaloo May 2016 #126

how can one misspeak about something like that Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #207

She does have a propsensity to, um, embellish Art_from_Ark May 2016 #226

Actually it was all true Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #13

Oh Cheese you are going to make the Clinton supporters cry! Silver_Witch May 2016 #107

Don't forget she claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. derpderpderp May 2016 #127

Yes, utterly disproven. merrily May 2016 #35

It was disproven. Mrs. Clinton was greeted with flowers, akbacchus_BC May 2016 #61

YouTube has plenty of videos. JRLeft May 2016 #87

well, I don't think Hillary was flipping the snipers off trudyco May 2016 #4

In order to flip off snipers, first, you need snipers. merrily May 2016 #45

Lol Duckhunter935 May 2016 #5

Oooh! More bro bragging The Second Stone May 2016 #8

You may need to look up the definition of bragging. merrily May 2016 #46

I think they were just tasked with using 'bro' in a sentence. HooptieWagon May 2016 #77

Is there a bonus for gratuitously using bro in their canned responses? JonLeibowitz May 2016 #79

I heard Brock gives an extra dollar for every "Bro" Flighty McFlight May 2016 #210

No matter how nonsensical! Good point. You're probably correct. merrily May 2016 #80

Even they must be getting tired of this lazy, misandric drivel by now... sibelian May 2016 #192

I'm putting in a bro for you trudyco May 2016 #139

Cool story bro n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #194

Big giant fat fucking liars. Luminous Animal May 2016 #9

^THIS^ is the truth, right here. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #56

Guess you didn't see the video of the Sanders supporter angrily yelling "f_ck you bitch" just a . . brush May 2016 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #16

You didn't answer the question. Did you see the video? brush May 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #21

You didn't ask a question mindwalker_i May 2016 #43

Not nice at all, but how does cursing make a politician fear for her life? merrily May 2016 #37

Exactly. We woman are not delicate flowers who faint at swear words! Silver_Witch May 2016 #112

Fuck yeah!!! pangaia May 2016 #119

Fuck was my wife's favorite word, with shit a close second. hobbit709 May 2016 #175

She sounds like a wonderful woman! Silver_Witch May 2016 #215

A-fucking-men! Amaril May 2016 #182

Exactly... Silver_Witch May 2016 #214

Bad analogy whathehell May 2016 #15

Violence and chair throwing can be documented senz May 2016 #17

No.shit...She never claimed that happened, and guess what? whathehell May 2016 #23

Is that why she was taunting, crowing and chortling? senz May 2016 #24

Please show us where she is "taunting, growing and chortling" whathehell May 2016 #26

Here ya go... senz May 2016 #29

Did you see this one? notadmblnd May 2016 #32

Wow. I saw a still of it and didn't know who it was. senz May 2016 #36

No, we did not know... shanti May 2016 #40

I've voted for her and once had a great deal of respect for her. frylock May 2016 #57

Not only NOT scared but aggressively contemptuous. In fairness, what else could she do? lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #147

^^ Excellent overview & summary ^^ senz May 2016 #163

Whenever someone puts me in mortal terror, I flip them off, too. merrily May 2016 #41

I often re-evaluate my environment more than once, hence my reactions may or may not change as well. LanternWaste May 2016 #88

My bias, my ass. Watch the videos. merrily May 2016 #95

The crowd was rude, but her behavior was bizarre. merrily May 2016 #44

This is all starting to have a ritualistic air to it. Very creepy FlatBaroque May 2016 #50

Funny you should say that. Until this thread, my standard comment on Boxer has been merrily May 2016 #52

Her daughter was married to Hill's brother. senz May 2016 #60

Thanks. Yep. Google reveals a lot of incestuous interrelationships. merrily May 2016 #99

Haha. trudyco May 2016 #143

I hope Zach is heavily biased in favor of his family, as are most of us. merrily May 2016 #145

It's not bizarre at all. It was trolling. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #158

TM99 called this right passiveporcupine May 2016 #65

I see her emphatically flipping the bird in the last couple of seconds of the video merrily May 2016 #224

and now she claims she was in fear for her life? bunnies May 2016 #115

Clearly the behavior of a terrified woman. notadmblnd May 2016 #117

Indeed. The poor dear. bunnies May 2016 #121

I think if something like that happened to me, that I would be afraid notadmblnd May 2016 #123

Myself, I'd probably flee the country in terror. bunnies May 2016 #125

It would be necessary for cosmetic surgery to be involved notadmblnd May 2016 #129

So true, so true. bunnies May 2016 #132

ISIL got nothing on Bernie Bros baby! notadmblnd May 2016 #133

Thanks, senz. A cop or guard is right beside her the whole time, ffs. And others probably close by merrily May 2016 #42

The one clip I saw, there was a phalanx of gun-toting officers libdem4life May 2016 #137

As I keep saying, she Gloria Steinemed herself. merrily May 2016 #140

Boxer has always been level-headed and classy. Unfortunate, indeed. libdem4life May 2016 #142

But....I like pretzels. merrily May 2016 #146

Forgot about Bush...LOL libdem4life May 2016 #149

See? Even a lowly pretzel can serve the nation. merrily May 2016 #150

Now you've gone and done it. Steinham leads to pretzels lead to Bush libdem4life May 2016 #199

I followed your post, but I don't know what I've done. I hope it was making you smile. merrily May 2016 #219

Then it's a good thing she's getting out of politics and again, see Reply 37. merrily May 2016 #39

And one can "feel" that they are dodging sniper fire, but the FACT IS, IT NEVER HAPPENED. pdsimdars May 2016 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #18

Feelings are "reality" for those feeling them. Boxer never CLAIMED violence --he said she felt fear whathehell May 2016 #25

no, but the posted videos prove that she didn't ACT as if she was in fear... lapfog_1 May 2016 #31

Oh, please...That's a matter of speculation.. whathehell May 2016 #91

kind of like being a Jew at Nuremberg lapfog_1 May 2016 #93

Ever worn a dress? whathehell May 2016 #94

wow, victim hood... nothing bad ever happens to men, only women lapfog_1 May 2016 #97

wow..denial hood...Are you saying women aren't "victims' of misogyny? whathehell May 2016 #189

watch how fearful she appeared notadmblnd May 2016 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #34

Lol..Sounds like your 'professional' opinion is being undermined whathehell May 2016 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #179

Lol...No, you are out of yours whathehell May 2016 #186

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #193

Yes, you are whathehell May 2016 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #196

Given your FIFTEEN hides in 90 days, it seems fair to suggest that whathehell May 2016 #200

Maybe she felt guilt passiveporcupine May 2016 #67

They should feel guilt about abusing her with gender slurs.. whathehell May 2016 #86

And then to spread that lie all over. pdsimdars May 2016 #148

Boxer's "strong emotions" were supported by the event of whathehell May 2016 #203

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #204

People had an opinion about the truthfulness of Hillary's story before the video appeared. merrily May 2016 #38

I feel sorry for her Deb May 2016 #22

Did you watch the videos senz and notadmblind posted? merrily May 2016 #47

Of course I watched Deb May 2016 #84

I don't care that her actions were inappropriate. If she wants to act like a 12 year old clown, merrily May 2016 #96

Not to mention when they're being verbally abused with sexist slurs whathehell May 2016 #92

Oh yeh all the Bernie supporters were MEN! senz May 2016 #165

No,I'd guess not, since I'm one whathehell May 2016 #183

Well then I think we have a misunderstanding here. senz May 2016 #188

Okay. n/t whathehell May 2016 #190

Yeah, all those big, violent BERNIE BRO THUGS!! Wednesdays May 2016 #171

K&R. dchill May 2016 #27

K and fucking R Autumn May 2016 #28

Exactly. (I also find it morally bankrupt for people who think nothing of casually bjo59 May 2016 #30

WOW. That is one great post. merrily May 2016 #48

Such an excellent point. senz May 2016 #63

Great post, and the liars expect people with morals to vote for them! akbacchus_BC May 2016 #64

^^^^^^thread winner^^^^^ n/t mooseprime May 2016 #69

Yes, it raises grave doubts about their values and judgement. pdsimdars May 2016 #151

Well, well whaddaya know? Another Hillary camper proven dishonest by video. merrily May 2016 #49

I don't understand CajunBlazer May 2016 #51

She ruined what little reputation they had left TheFarS1de May 2016 #59

I'm not talking about Boxer, I'me talking about you CajunBlazer May 2016 #66

Have you stopped hitting your wife ? TheFarS1de May 2016 #76

No, that tactic won't work! CajunBlazer May 2016 #213

You want to know who is really threatening our children and grandchildren? truedelphi May 2016 #209

More deflective BS BS CajunBlazer May 2016 #217

Stealing elections makes voters very, very angry. senz May 2016 #72

Yes it does. Especially when you have an honorable perosn like Bernie truedelphi May 2016 #221

The Tuzla airport was the scene of intense fighting for many weeks cheapdate May 2016 #53

She took her kid with her Fumesucker May 2016 #62

I have no idea what went into cheapdate May 2016 #68

I think Mrs. Clinton went for a visit and took Chelsea with her! akbacchus_BC May 2016 #70

The First Lady accepted some personal risk cheapdate May 2016 #73

Good for you! akbacchus_BC May 2016 #74

The government spends millions upon millions to ensure the safety of the First Family Fumesucker May 2016 #71

As I recall cheapdate May 2016 #75

Sinbad accompanied the Clintons on that trip. djean111 May 2016 #102

So don't vote for her. cheapdate May 2016 #130

Why would I care if you cared? djean111 May 2016 #134

Sure, and why would Brian Williams "make up a story" cheapdate May 2016 #162

The difference is that Hillary was nowhere near any gunshots. djean111 May 2016 #168

Sounds good. Your mind is made up and so is mine. cheapdate May 2016 #181

100% of the snipers I know think this is accurate. cliffordu May 2016 #78

A-yup! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #109

I can fling poop. cliffordu May 2016 #159

We have other weapons to use against politicians. senz May 2016 #167

I believe everyone should know how to safely handle firearms.... cliffordu May 2016 #227

Hey, flying chairs can be more dangerous than flying bullets jack_krass May 2016 #81

Or bombs. . . pdsimdars May 2016 #153

The sniping went on for years MFM008 May 2016 #82

This one isn't true. The question isn't whether or not there were snipers in Bosnia. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #106

'Course there's video of her on hte tarmac, getting flowers from a little girl Scootaloo May 2016 #131

OP fit for the right-wing site of your choice... VOX May 2016 #83

+1 JoePhilly May 2016 #100

Thank you. Senator Boxer has always been a staunch progressive Senator, and I am proud to say I still_one May 2016 #156

Because holding HRC responsible for her behavior is SO rightwing. senz May 2016 #169

UNDER THE BUS WITH YOU BARBARA, YOU FASCIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Darb May 2016 #89

K&R silvershadow May 2016 #101

Lol what the fuck was she doing in NV? WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #103

Trolling liberals, apparently. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #111

exactly boomer55 May 2016 #104

good one dana_b May 2016 #113

MASSIVE KANDR!! liberalnarb May 2016 #114

I heard there's video of Boxer dodging thrown chairs. Dr. Strange May 2016 #120

But I think Hillary's UFO aliens from area 51 took it in their space ship pdsimdars May 2016 #155

I expect to see her in heavy eyeshadow with a backwards B on her cheek any day now Scootaloo May 2016 #128

lol, perfect! That's where she belongs now. senz May 2016 #166

They're not stupid. Just very, very thoughtless Scootaloo May 2016 #180

Apparently something is slipping and they know it. senz May 2016 #187

Awesome plan! Keep attacking a popular Senator from CA going into the CA primary Maven May 2016 #136

Is she running? pdsimdars May 2016 #157

kicked! MaeScott May 2016 #138

Lol (nt) Babel_17 May 2016 #141

The whole thing was just surreal to see thrown about days after. polly7 May 2016 #152

Great OP title. This thread should have at least a hundred recs. Oh, wait. It does! merrily May 2016 #154

BUT, WE have to not let it go. Thom Hartmann thinks it was no big deal. pdsimdars May 2016 #160

TH discussed it at length on, iirc, Wednesday. He took it seriously. senz May 2016 #173

And we are manipulated into wars using the exact same process dreamnightwind May 2016 #174

Good points, edgineered May 2016 #208

Hillary blowing kisses to the snipers. mhatrw May 2016 #161

Perfectly said! arcane1 May 2016 #177

Seriously? Dem2 May 2016 #178

Not a fair comparison. The Bosnia sniper fire lie was for self-aggrandizement; Boxer's lie was at Attorney in Texas May 2016 #184

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #185

I do not believe in ratcheting up violent rhetoric lovemydog May 2016 #198

This thread is revolting. apcalc May 2016 #201

Yes, it's testosterone fueled rage on display whathehell May 2016 #225

yoy do know they actually told Hillary... artyteacher May 2016 #202

Boxer should be called out on this Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #206

Yep azurnoir May 2016 #211

Neckbeards have super powers Capt. Obvious May 2016 #212