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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: Chelsea Clinton is 36 [View all]

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,961 posts)
55. Very cute
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:08 AM
May 2016

We've actually been trying that for a while. Obviously, the Adams' were the first, although both were one-termers. Both were far more distinguished outside the White House. TR and FDR were cousins, as were FDR and Eleanor. I know some of the decedents ran for other offices, but not much came of it. Alice Roosevelt Longworth (TRs daughter) was never political, but was a character and a social fixture in DC until her death in 1980.

We wanted the Kennedys to be a dynasty, but it never came to be. JFK and Bobby were gunned down; Teddy doomed himself at Chappie, JFK Jr. died in the plane crash.

The Nixon-Eisenhower dynasty never came to be. David and Tricia never did anything in politics. Chuck Robb married Linda B Johnson, but his trajectory stalled at about 1980.

The Bushes are old money. Prescott Bush was a typical New England Republican of the day, and (as we now know) something of a Nazi admirer in the 30s. H.W. Bush was, in many ways, everything you'd want in a President on paper. He had a distinguished military career; his family had money, but he went out and made a bunch more in his own right; and he took an interest in Government. His son was a different story. He was not a successful businessman except for his stint running the Texas Rangers (and he traded A-Rod, so what does that tell you?), but then he got elected President. I think we're done with Bushes in the White House for a generation.

Hillary Rodham is from a political family. When she married Bill, she became the proverbial "great woman behind every great man." He became the youngest Governor in the history of Arkansas; lost the job; and then won it back. I think she always wanted to be President, and her running is not a sign that we will have an endless parade of Clintons. I think she's it.

The more dangerous trend that I see is what's going on with Trump. Not necessarily Trump himself, but the notion of the election as infotainment, and the prospect of people with no real political background at all being elected not on intellect or accomplishment, but simply on celebrity. Reagan may have been an actor, but he'd also been a two-term Governor of California prior to being elected President. Trump has no political background, and I suspect that if he were elected, he'd be ready to leave the job in frustration within 18 months.

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Chelsea Clinton is 36 [View all] Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 OP
The queen is dead. TM99 May 2016 #1
Nobody dies here. It isn't Game of Thrones Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #2
Do you have a high school education? TM99 May 2016 #6
Not that I think there's an educational requirement at DU Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #8
Well the phrase Le roi est mort, vive le roi! TM99 May 2016 #11
I've never actually seen Game of Thones Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr May 2016 #69
... and they say Berners are cultists. Hiraeth May 2016 #3
I'm just having some fun Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #5
If I wanted a dynasty I would move to England. I love me some Will and Kate and Harry is to die for. Hiraeth May 2016 #17
If we could only skip Charles and Camilla.... Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #19
poor old Charles. Hiraeth May 2016 #20
It's going to be weird Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #31
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #4
She'd have to actually win elections Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #7
And to think, people were upset that Malia was called a "legacy kid" unfairly today ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #10
My insiders gave me bad info on Malia Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #16
You're not considered a legacy unless one of your parents went there for college. StevieM May 2016 #23
eh..I think they might stretch the point for a President Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #28
Since when does grad school not count? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #56
Sad, sick, servile... whatchamacallit May 2016 #15
Hmmm let's see, is this the hardwork of someone who's a moron? Firebrand Gary May 2016 #12
I'm mostly just having some fun here in GD: P Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #22
What exactly earns Chelsea the moron title? Someone clue me in qdouble May 2016 #14
Regarding point 2, look in the mirror. Beacool May 2016 #24
Im sure people in this thread will respond sane and rationally and.... JaneyVee May 2016 #9
heh. Yes me too, lol. BootinUp May 2016 #13
Yup, democracy, whatever we think still exists, dies ever so slowly nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21
Lighten up, Frances Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #25
Except that "both sides" do this with their favorite pols nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #33
I'm not proposing any of this seriously Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #48
Alas I was quite serious about what I wrote nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #52
Very cute Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #55
Alas people have been underestimating trump for months nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #58
I think there is a group of people that aren't particularly connected to politics Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #60
And we disagree. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #66
I think we're talking crossed purposes Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #67
On a very serious note nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #68
Still wishing for monarchy and aristocracy BlindTiresias May 2016 #37
Don't get sick over this. Life is too short. Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #49
You wanted to rile up the anti-Clinton crowd, right? Beacool May 2016 #26
Well...maybe Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #34
Putting aside the primary strife for a second. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #27
This is all I'm really saying. Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #36
300 Million Americans SusanLarson May 2016 #29
Have you seen her qualifications? Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #38
If she is 36 some guy May 2016 #30
Jesus, it is like TM99 May 2016 #39
If she were an attorney, I'd suggest that she spend some time working in legal aid Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #42
Won't it be time for another Bush first? Live and Learn May 2016 #32
Jeb! broke the streak. Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #40
No he didn't, the streak can continue on. Hallelujah! Live and Learn May 2016 #41
I guarantee they felt the same way about John Quincy Adams Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #43
And yet, we have millions more people to chose from today. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #45
Steve Jefferson for President...because he has a good family name! TheKentuckian May 2016 #35
Because she is so qualified and enchanting. artislife May 2016 #44
She doesn't have to be. But it helps. Hillary can tell her this. nt silvershadow May 2016 #46
I think that, as of right now, Hillary and Chelsea are both legal residents of New York. Jim Lane May 2016 #47
I like your thought process Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #50
You're right -- either Obama daughter could fill the gap. Jim Lane May 2016 #57
I think she's only agreeing to stay in the area to get Sasha through school Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #64
This is very low. Please leave the children out! akbacchus_BC May 2016 #51
Chelsea is 36 Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #53
I think she would make a great President. I want to see her as a Senator first. ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #54
The new Caroline Kennedy? Retrograde May 2016 #74
And why would we want that nightmare to come to pass? Betty Karlson May 2016 #59
Geeze you are taking this thread way too seriously Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #61
Second Administration! lagomorph777 May 2016 #62
A coronation would be kind of cool Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #65
Royalism is not funny BlindTiresias May 2016 #70
Larry Wilmore was not funny at the correspondent's dinner. Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #72
No, thanks bigwillq May 2016 #63
Jeez, that makes me feel old. Throd May 2016 #71
IK, R Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #73
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