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2016 Postmortem

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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:25 PM Apr 2016

Sanders' Wins To Date and His Path Forward [View all]

So far, Hillary remains successful as a regional candidate, but a weak and vulnerable national candidate.

The contests over the past month have confirmed the extreme weakness of Hillary's centrist campaign outside least progressive region of the US (the 13 ex-Confederate states of the Bible Belt):



First, let's be perfectly clear before the Hillary Patrol begins their whine about how "the Bible Belt matters!" Of course all regions matter. The Bible Belt is about a fifth of the country and it should count for a similar proportion of the candidate selection process. We get that Hillary has a southern accent and likes to talk about her church going faith in God when she campaigns in the Bible Belt. We get that she's the former First Lady of Arkansas. We get that her centrist message is going to beat a strong progressive message in the most anti-choice, anti-LGBT-equality, anti-union, anti-semitic region of the US, our Bible Belt. No one is ignoring this vote. Hillary won it. Congratulations!

In the rest of America, however, Sanders' 16 wins in the 23 non-Bible-Belt states where Sanders has earned 56% of the pledged delegates continues to show that Sanders is much preferred over Hillary:

State.....Hillary Delegates.....Sanders Delegates

IA.....................23....................21
NH.....................9....................15
NV....................20....................15
CO....................28....................38
MA....................46....................45
MN....................31....................46
OK....................17.....................21
VT......................0.....................16
NE....................10.....................15
KS....................10.....................23
ME......................9.....................16
MI.....................63.....................67
IL......................78.....................78
MO....................36.....................35
OH....................81.....................62
AZ…………………..….42………….....………33
UT……………………....6…………….....…….27
ID……………………..…5…………….....…….18
AK.....................3......................13
HI......................8......................17
WA....................27.....................74
WI.....................38....................48
WY....................7.......................7

Total................597...................750 out of 1347

While Sanders has already erased almost half of the pledged delegate lead Hillary built up in the Bible Belt, he still has a 216 delegate deficit to overcome, but this is to be expected considering the least progressive states were front-loaded onto the calendar. If you account for the ideological front-loading of the least progressive states, then you would expect that Sanders would be behind in the delegate count at this stage in the primary calendar even though he would be on tract for the nomination.

Considering this front-loading, Sanders is only about 90 pledged delegates short of where he would want to be to remain on track to win the majority of the pledged delegates.

This 90 pledged delegate gap is definitely surmountable.

Nate Silver's projections about the pace at which each of the candidates would need to win pledged delegates to enter the convention with a majority assumes a race that was tied from beginning to end.

But the race has not been static; instead, Hillary started out ahead and Sanders has caught or passed her (compare a graph of all national polling versus a graph of only the more reliable live cellphone plus landline polling):

ALL POLLS


ALL LIVE PHONE POLLS

Sanders' taking the lead is even more significant because these nationwide polls include the 13 Bible Belt states where Hillary is far more popular so, to balance our Hillary's regional popularity, Sanders needs to be even more popular outside the Bible Belt than the popularity shown in the national polling.

We can do this!


Keep fighting! Keep phone banking! Keep winning!

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Sanders' Wins To Date and His Path Forward [View all] Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 OP
Podium bird math and realities don't count uponit7771 Apr 2016 #1
Every state that has already voted means Hortensis Apr 2016 #6
I'm concerned the vote machines in NY will be rigged for her. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #2
count on it yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #3
Already starting? TMontoya Apr 2016 #20
independent spoilers get real......how bout paper ballots with all sides watching the count. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #27
I'm sure Sanders will call for a recount...right? brooklynite Apr 2016 #28
you have such a high opinion of blacks dsc Apr 2016 #4
No, he is not. potone Apr 2016 #10
Exactly. Some act as if they don't allow white voters to vote in the Bible Belt when - in fact - Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #22
...but they're not a majority of the voters in the 2016 Democratic Primaries in the Southern States brooklynite Apr 2016 #29
You won't be able to source that because it's untrue. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #31
read em and weep... brooklynite Apr 2016 #32
So we agree white Democrats were the majority in most of the 13 states, and the majority overall? Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #34
So if you take away states that Hillary won.....Bernie is actually leading! Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #5
".. least progressive states.." like Kansas or Utah or where you talking about the states with black uponit7771 Apr 2016 #7
The OP had polling data showing that the Deep South was the most anti-choice and anit-LGBT region. Vote2016 Apr 2016 #8
Neither, just a full perspective that none of that represent the progressive voters in the dem uponit7771 Apr 2016 #9
All I know is that Southern state Democrats tend to be conservative and Western state Democrats tend Vote2016 Apr 2016 #11
The link doesn't have any polling data on progressiveness in them so I don't believe the claim uponit7771 Apr 2016 #17
The OP had polling data. My post had a link to a vote where anti-Progressive Democrats joined with Vote2016 Apr 2016 #23
"Thinly veiled bullshit ass'd post. " Codeine Apr 2016 #13
Wow...If acres were votes, Bernie in a landslide...nt Henhouse Apr 2016 #12
Losing campaigns make terrible arguments as reality and desperation set in. Alfresco Apr 2016 #14
It's going to be very hard on you when Clinton wins mythology Apr 2016 #15
No, it's going to be hard on me if Cruz wins. I don't care about Hillary - I'm progressive instead. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #18
... SidDithers Apr 2016 #16
Either we nominate Sanders or Neo-Goldwater beats Neo-Nixon. You wouldn't like Neo-Goldwater but he Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #19
K & R AzDar Apr 2016 #21
Bookmarking. Agschmid Apr 2016 #24
Sigh......... Beacool Apr 2016 #25
Bernie is also regional CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #26
Wrong. He's taken even the states he didn't win. he keeps wining with people who show up to vote Zira Apr 2016 #37
Idaho and Utah are progressive states? oberliner Apr 2016 #30
Compare the Democrats in Idaho and Utah versus the Democrats in the South Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #33
There are no Democrats in Congress from either of Utah or Idaho oberliner Apr 2016 #35
Nevada and Missouri look likey to flip....he's likely down by approx. 204 delegates. pantsonfire Apr 2016 #36
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