2016 Postmortem

ellennelle

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50. regardless of the political fallout

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 08:54 PM

Mar 2016

(about which i guarantee you are wrong), what i find so startling is the cavalier and dismissive tone both you and nurse jackie have taken here. it reads like, oh well, shrug, not that big a deal, we've got the gay vote locked up, move along, nothing to see here.

really? seriously?

you seem to miss how much this attitude reflects hillary's. it is not flattering.

you may not demand perfection, but at least demand sensitivity. it is not hillary's strong suit, sadly (i'm thinking 'super predators...brought to heel' and the SC protester and BLM discussion and her 'we came we saw he died' video', just for starters), but the pattern has long since passed the 'imperfection' mark and veered steeply into a character flaw.

continue to defend/ignore that all you want, but this is the same pattern we all watched unfold 8 years ago. i'd so hoped she'd learned something, but it appears to be more about that character thing.

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Why did she lie about Nancy Reagan's involvement with the AIDS crisis? Why THAT lie? [View all] Merryland Mar 2016 OP

Oh stop it. nt SylviaD Mar 2016 #1

No, we will not 'stop it'. TM99 Mar 2016 #5

this is agregious. Is this what we're supposed to expect from her 'leadership'? roguevalley Mar 2016 #9

HRC will be an outstanding president. Your spelling is a disaster. nt SylviaD Mar 2016 #63

no she won't and I'm on a phone. sue me. roguevalley Mar 2016 #67

One word is misspelled and that's a "disaster" to you LiberalElite Mar 2016 #68

Sorry, but calling HRC a disaster crosses the line imo. nt SylviaD Mar 2016 #69

Maybe because things are more complicated than pure? Jitter65 Mar 2016 #65

No it is not complicated. TM99 Mar 2016 #66

Isn't it supposed to be, "Cut that out!"? eom Fawke Em Mar 2016 #41

You beat me! nt PonyUp Mar 2016 #55

Didn't you mean 'Cut it out' ? nt PonyUp Mar 2016 #54

GMAFB! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #2

Do you dispute what the Regans are being accused of - turning their back on Aids victims? Cavallo Mar 2016 #17

The Reagans DID start a "national conversation" on the topic. MADem Mar 2016 #21

Exactly. HRC said nothing wrong. Perhaps she overstated things. SylviaD Mar 2016 #70

As a presumed nurse you laughing about this is so sad. libtodeath Mar 2016 #40

holy cow ellennelle Mar 2016 #44

Bingo. nt SylviaD Mar 2016 #71

... Unrec. Agschmid Mar 2016 #3

Because the nancy reagan lovers wanted to hear something good about her. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #4

The lies just roll right off her tongue. kath Mar 2016 #8

That's it exactly ibegurpard Mar 2016 #45

This is ridiculous. Metric System Mar 2016 #6

This will have deep reverberations inside the gay community, I guarantee you. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #7

You do guarantee that? nt MADem Mar 2016 #15

No it won't. yardwork Mar 2016 #23

What happened to you? enigmatic Mar 2016 #33

I was banned in the Gay Purge and not reinstated for years. yardwork Mar 2016 #34

yes, but she lies so often if it suits her, you cant be comfortable with that can you? litlbilly Mar 2016 #43

regardless of the political fallout ellennelle Mar 2016 #50

Are you gay? If not, how dare you tell me how to respond to this? yardwork Mar 2016 #51

wow, you keep making our points here ellennelle Mar 2016 #57

I'm sorry, what is this gay purge? Cavallo Mar 2016 #46

have to wonder what her views were back in the 1980s 4139 Mar 2016 #10

She supported the Defense of Marriage act in the 90's, so I doubt she was pro gay in the 80's. Cavallo Mar 2016 #47

mm, don't think so ellennelle Mar 2016 #52

Excuse me, you are correct. She supported it. She didn't vote for it. Cavallo Mar 2016 #53

I didn't know that about Bernie! Cavallo Mar 2016 #56

oh hey no problem! ellennelle Mar 2016 #58

Confusion. As I recall, major names connected to AIDS in the 80s ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #11

I think you're right. MADem Mar 2016 #14

Hillary has apologized today, saying that her comments were wrong. yardwork Mar 2016 #36

peace ellennelle Mar 2016 #61

The Reagans DID put the spotlight on AIDS--both funding and research. MADem Mar 2016 #12

That is desperation - they demonized the disease karynnj Mar 2016 #19

Who is saying that the Reagans did any "leading?" MADem Mar 2016 #29

AIDS is trending high in D.C. / NYC Twitter Merryland Mar 2016 #13

Maybe she's thinking it will help her with so-called Reagan Democrats? winter is coming Mar 2016 #16

What a nasty little post alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #18

Not everyone can, and that's a shame, I guess. nt MADem Mar 2016 #30

Speaking of killing, I'm worried about Bernie's life while he is running against the plutocracy. Cavallo Mar 2016 #20

ah, yes; all that ellennelle Mar 2016 #62

I don't think she understands "lie." senz Mar 2016 #22

shit...what did she say now? ibegurpard Mar 2016 #24

Maybe she thinks that anyone stupid enough to believe her deserves to be lied to. n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #25

She loathes the left by now and will stop at nothing to punish them for insufficient fealty Fumesucker Mar 2016 #26

I think you're probably right! haikugal Mar 2016 #59

I don't think she can help lying. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #27

Nah, just pandering to the Cult of Reagan Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #28

The kitchen sink approach since SC hasn't been working. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #31

Yes, it's protocol to say nice things about someone who died, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #32

I was just watching Chuck Todd and a panel on MSNBC BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #35

DING DING DING. HeartoftheMidwest Mar 2016 #39

Courting the Moderate Republicans and Reagan Democrats TalkingDog Mar 2016 #37

Maybe an uninformed underling wrote it for her and she simply repeated it. jalan48 Mar 2016 #38

THAT lie is because... zentrum Mar 2016 #42

Maybe she thought it would get GOP votes for her program in Congress. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #48

So deep in teh bubble she can't tell any longer? Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #49

Another 'Unforced Error'... That's What They Call It In Tennis... WillyT Mar 2016 #60

That lie was chosen to try to buy peace with Republicans who might not vote for Trump. She will say Vote2016 Mar 2016 #64