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In reply to the discussion: Superdelegates offsetting the results of primaries is unconstitutional IMHO [View all]Samantha
(9,314 posts)78. No one would have a majority if there were a tie
But a lot of things can happen so I looked this up. This is pretty interesting:
In United States politics, a brokered convention is a situation in which no single candidate has secured a pre-existing majority of delegates (whether those selected by primary elections and caucuses, or superdelegates) prior to the first official vote for a political party's presidential candidate at its nominating convention.
Once the first ballot, or vote, has occurred, and no candidate has a majority of the delegates' votes, the convention is then considered brokered; thereafter, the nomination is decided through a process of alternating political horse-trading, and additional re-votes.[1][2][3][4] In this circumstance, all regular delegates (who previously may have been pledged to a particular candidate according to rules which vary from state to state) are "released" and are able to switch their allegiance to a different candidate before the next round of balloting. It is hoped that this 'freedom' will result in a re-vote resulting in a clear majority of delegates for one candidate.
Superdelegate votes are counted on the first ballot. Although the term "brokered convention" is sometimes used to refer to a convention where the outcome is decided by superdelegate votes rather than pledged delegates alone, this is not the original sense of the term. Like a brokered convention, the potentially decisive role played by superdelegates can often go against the popular vote from the primaries and caucuses. (bold emphasis added)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention
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Superdelegates offsetting the results of primaries is unconstitutional IMHO [View all]
Samantha
Feb 2016
OP
Wanting a little democracy with your Democratic Party may just put you in the poo-poo firing line!
Kip Humphrey
Feb 2016
#2
To select some (most, actually) of the delegates to the national convention
Freddie Stubbs
Feb 2016
#22
i suggest you consider what happens in 2016 if superdelegates overrule the will of the people?
highprincipleswork
Feb 2016
#103
The process of voting or caucusing in primaries is governed by the states and the constitution,
aidbo
Feb 2016
#14
The amount of adverse opinion on this subject is too overwhelming to post here
Samantha
Feb 2016
#33
Exactly. Plus, the SCOTUS has ruled that political parties are private organizations.
stopbush
Feb 2016
#31
Is it your position political parties do not have to comport to state constitutions
Samantha
Feb 2016
#37
I hope you are right -- but at some point I am hoping that we insist on getting rid of these
Samantha
Feb 2016
#42
So you would be okay with Republicans registering as Democrats and voting in our primaries?
randome
Feb 2016
#40
Some are doing it now as we "talk" because they are crossing over to support Bernie
Samantha
Feb 2016
#44
Please reread the first paragraph under "Superdelegates are Unconstitutional in the OP" (eom)
Samantha
Feb 2016
#51
Reminds me of when people complain about abridgment of their 1st amendment rights..
aidbo
Feb 2016
#69
As you and I both know, politicians sometimes say what is politically convenient at the moment
Samantha
Feb 2016
#48
Well, who elects Boy Scout leaders? Teacher union leaders? Who appoints Supreme Court justices?
randome
Feb 2016
#34
According to Wikipedia Super Delagates Include State Elected Officials-Gov, Senator and Representa
Stallion
Feb 2016
#77
So you can confidently say things such as brokered conventions and lobbyists becoming superdelegates
Samantha
Feb 2016
#85
The Constitution does not govern the primary process - and primary voters have no Constitutional
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#81
then they all have honest, but low fact based constitutional law, opinions on this matter
Sheepshank
Feb 2016
#98
Many people who share my opinion are easily located with a simple Google search
Samantha
Feb 2016
#104
Just as many are right here on your thread and do not share your opinion. n/t
Sheepshank
Feb 2016
#106
There is no constitutional basis for the primaries, for parties, for the whole fake rigged game.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2016
#94