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Oilwellian

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15. Remember the Biden/Hillary scuffle over bin Ladin's capture
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:09 AM
Feb 2016
Osama Bin Laden Raid May Be an Issue in a Joe Biden-Hillary Clinton Contest

“I was one who recommended to the president that he go ahead,” Mrs. Clinton recalled.

Then she added: “And his advisers were split because it was a very risky operation to send in the Navy SEALs, to fly through Pakistani airspace, to land in a settled populated neighborhood and to take out the gunmen who were guarding bin Laden and either capture or kill bin Laden himself.”

One of those Obama officials uneasy about the raid: Mr. Biden.

In Mr. Biden’s telling, every Obama adviser had qualms about the raid except Leon Panetta, the C.I.A. director at the time.

It is not the first time Mrs. Clinton has raised the administration’s divide over bin Laden. She did so in paid speeches in the months after leaving the State Department. But such comments will now be received in a different light.

NYT


I remember Hillary also mentioned in one of the recent debates, that she aided in the capture of bin Laden. According to this Guardian article that gives an in depth account of his capture, it was military and intelligence officials who worked with Obama. In the entire article, Hillary was only mentioned once and this is what they wrote:

The final meeting was held in the Situation Room on the afternoon of Thursday 28 April. Popular accounts of this decisive session have portrayed Obama facing down a wall of opposition and doubt among his top advisers. In fact, there was overwhelming support for launching the raid.

One by one, the principals around the room were asked to choose one of the three options: the raid, the missile strike or doing nothing – and then to defend their choice. The only major dissenters were Joe Biden and defence secretary Robert Gates, and, by the next morning, Gates had changed his mind. Everyone else favoured sending in the Seals. At first it didn't seem like Hillary Clinton would. She had famously faulted Obama years earlier for asserting that he would take a shot in Pakistan unilaterally if there was a good chance of getting Bin Laden and now, as secretary of state, she would bear the brunt of the diplomatic fallout if he did. Suspense built as Clinton worked her way around to her surprising bottom line. They could not ignore a chance to get Osama bin Laden. It was too important to the country. It outweighed the risks.

The Thursday meeting ended early in the evening. "You'll have my decision in the morning," Obama said.

The Guardian


So even in the capture of Osama bin Laden, Hillary balked before agreeing to the operation. That was the extent of her participation other than being a spectator of the raid.

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