2016 Postmortem

truedelphi

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166. Sorry that was your experience. The entire political system is designed to

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:11 PM

Feb 2016

Favor the Elite, and that means keeping the controversial and life-changing activists off the ballot.

Over the past five years, I have had to fight just to phone bank for one "D" candidate I liked. I was not willing to buy into having to spend 90% of my time fawning with the Party local leaders over Hillary, as everyone who was more welcomed into the phone banking process was willing to do. (I found this especially egregious, as Hillary was secretary of State at the time - who else has ever been offered to us as someone to fawn over while they were Secretary of State?)

When I ran for City Council when living in the SF Bay area, the Party only let people who Di Feisntein approved of get any support from the Democrats. Since City of Sausalito makes city council candidates eschew any party labels, that was not a big deal.

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Every time the party's left raises their little pointy heads and makes noises....this stuff happens. [View all] madfloridian Feb 2016 OP

Even Trump was more gracious. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #1

Yes, he was, surprisingly. madfloridian Feb 2016 #2

Didn't think of it at the time but that's true. Jarqui Feb 2016 #3

I just saw Trevor Noah make that point. Yikes. It's true. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #6

Trevor Noah has established himself as a distinctive and truthful voice in a very short time. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #145

Yep--I've become a fairly regular viewer. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #149

Will need to watch his show. madfloridian Feb 2016 #183

It's true. senz Feb 2016 #15

She has no humility. She is not humble. She is not salt of the earth. She approaches this as if Hiraeth Feb 2016 #16

It was the same in 2008, as grotesque then as now. senz Feb 2016 #46

She has the common touch of Marie Antoinette hifiguy Feb 2016 #156

I don't think she believes that or has said that but Skidmore Feb 2016 #157

I was looking at footage of her somewhere a few days ago when she was First Lady sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #47

Meh. I think he's just more skilled as a politician. merrily Feb 2016 #49

I gave her the benefit of the doubt for a long time. senz Feb 2016 #54

I just wait for someone to post exactly my thoughts then say +1. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #72

It is sad. senz Feb 2016 #137

+1,000 Pretty much the way I am seeing it also. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #82

When the righties attacked Hillary for saying, "It takes a village." I would see red. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #164

I honestly think she has an anti-social personality disorder dorkzilla Feb 2016 #75

I'm not a big fan of Hillary, but this is preposterous. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #112

Your disgust is duly noted dorkzilla Feb 2016 #124

... senz Feb 2016 #142

:) dorkzilla Feb 2016 #144

I truly hope you have your head buried in the sand..... pocoloco Feb 2016 #134

LOL --- "Armchair psychologists are always wrong." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #176

I've had to do quite a bit of research into these things senz Feb 2016 #141

I agree, that’s why I said “personality disorder” in general dorkzilla Feb 2016 #143

another survivor of marriage to NPD here grasswire Feb 2016 #172

That's wrong on so many levels. one_voice Feb 2016 #152

Perhaps. dorkzilla Feb 2016 #155

Really? This is how we win an election? Hekate Feb 2016 #160

I’m not doing anything of the sort dorkzilla Feb 2016 #161

I think people who seek out power and money to the extent Hillary has done, are sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #180

Agreed on all points! nt dorkzilla Feb 2016 #182

Her abused childhood has cast a long, wide and lethal shadow Divernan Feb 2016 #63

Thank you for posting that. If she were private individual I could have compassion for her. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #74

HRC's dad ran as "Democratic leaning independent" & lost. Divernan Feb 2016 #76

two things: (edited) Hiraeth Feb 2016 #81

Thanks Divernan. You put together a lot of information. It's sad and alarming. senz Feb 2016 #151

well, there it is grasswire Feb 2016 #173

He looked terrible arikara Feb 2016 #133

Yes he was. 840high Feb 2016 #21

Indeed he was. Never would I have thought that Trump's campaign was more mature.... George II Feb 2016 #30

Congratulations, you have just crossed over from irritating to irrelevant. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #68

My goodness you are a tolerant person beyond my wildest expectations. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #95

I can understand. and You are right, I am probably too tolerant. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #97

No, don't change I was being hyperbolic, you're fine the way you are. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #104

Ah, thanks Hiraeth Feb 2016 #107

What is telling is that the Oligarchy will do anything to win. We have seen it all before. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #101

"What is telling is that the Oligarchy will do anything to win" And how is that the case.... George II Feb 2016 #109

We are faced with an opponent that has unlimited resources and is not used to losing. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #115

Hillary's loud trumpeting of her "win" lacked maturity. madfloridian Feb 2016 #150

Well, here is her statement from Monday night: George II Feb 2016 #153

True, but he was also a clear second jberryhill Feb 2016 #126

Honestly, that question makes me wonder what would Hillary have acted like if she Hiraeth Feb 2016 #131

Don't worry she'll say nice things humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #178

is that a promise or a threat? Hiraeth Feb 2016 #179

One small correction to your wonderful article. SandersDem Feb 2016 #4

I just saw that! I got that email around 1 am last night...donated then. madfloridian Feb 2016 #10

Sweeeeeet!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #108

Another great OP from you. Thanks! kath Feb 2016 #5

Thanks for the kind words. madfloridian Feb 2016 #168

great post G_j Feb 2016 #7

How very unreasonable of you to actually expect the Democrats to stand for something besides guillaumeb Feb 2016 #8

Oh but of course as soon as we bring up her voting record to prove it VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #77

I believe in evolution. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #116

KnR for visibility. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #9

Kick ReasonableToo Feb 2016 #11

Kick !! FloriTexan Feb 2016 #12

Recommend. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #13

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #14

Lawrence O'Donnell said this evening we might not know who actually won Iowa until June Samantha Feb 2016 #17

Didn't the Iowa Dem party refuse to provide the raw data? madfloridian Feb 2016 #20

madfloridian: see the article in Latest Breakings News entitled something like: Samantha Feb 2016 #33

Thanks, I missed that. She just said no. Yes, it's unbelievable. madfloridian Feb 2016 #34

They are treating his supporters as outsiders, too. senz Feb 2016 #56

Given her obvious affiliation with the Clinton campaign, it's surprising she wouldn't winter is coming Feb 2016 #39

Winning is more important to them than appearing fair. DWS has done nothing fair and doesn't rhett o rick Feb 2016 #100

Could he have grounds to sue, then? Liberty Belle Feb 2016 #53

I don't really think so Samantha Feb 2016 #138

I haven't gotten over it either. senz Feb 2016 #48

Honestly, they do not have it all yet Bettie Feb 2016 #111

A lot of states have automatic recounts for differences less than 0.5% or so, iirc. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #79

States have to have their election law rules clearly defined in the State Constitution Samantha Feb 2016 #139

I have so gotten over being a democrat. I was shocked at how easy it was, I told my Autumn Feb 2016 #18

I only came back to being a Democrat so I can vote for Bernie in the primary. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #37

Bernie's the only reason I re registered as one. After I caucus here in CO I'm out again. Autumn Feb 2016 #38

My wife and I ran into the same Mbrow Feb 2016 #73

The Winslow? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #80

I brought it with. Mbrow Feb 2016 #85

She endorsed a republican opponent? arikara Feb 2016 #135

I left the party 20 or 25 years ago and just came back to vote for Bernie in the primary. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #102

"The trick is to harness their energy & money w/out looking like you're captive to the activis left" 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #19

I get why the politicians and bankers want to be centrist. cui bono Feb 2016 #22

I began to realize that a youth revolution was about to happen... Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #64

Be glad nobody is calling Martin O'Malley a "spoiler" like Nader. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #23

Ironically, in Iowa... malthaussen Feb 2016 #114

agreed jham123 Feb 2016 #127

once again, thanks for a great piece mad. k and r! bbgrunt Feb 2016 #24

DLC/Third Way kept identity politics while opening the door to economic predators. senz Feb 2016 #25

Your first sentence is purest gold. hifiguy Feb 2016 #158

Thanks, hifiguy. senz Feb 2016 #162

not much left to say, except K&R mountain grammy Feb 2016 #26

Bernie/we must be scaring the bejeezus out of the corporations/billionaire class. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #27

Personally i could give a rats ass what the hell they think nolabels Feb 2016 #62

Just like the party of Lincoln hasn't resembled itself in decades, 3rd Way DLCs turned their backs.. MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #28

I think he decided to come in from the cold. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #40

K&R Armstead Feb 2016 #29

Excellent post...!! PoiBoy Feb 2016 #31

Excellent post as always, MadFlo. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #32

K&R Paka Feb 2016 #35

"you did your job"- EXACTLY. And we all remember what happened next, right? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #36

Yep, they just kept preaching "bipartisanship." madfloridian Feb 2016 #44

why, it was almost like some of them were uncomfortable without a divided congress as an excuse NOT Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #58

THANKS For This Great POST... Kicking To get Back To It! n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #41

I love you. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #42

Back at you... madfloridian Feb 2016 #43

When you're right, you're right! zentrum Feb 2016 #45

Thank you Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #50

I think Jon Cowan started the Bernie wants fantasy stuff meme. madfloridian Feb 2016 #184

Now, Bernie has a (D) after his name, not an (I). merrily Feb 2016 #51

Excellent post. You smashed it! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #52

Ooops! Correction: Tim Kaine did not become DNC chair until 2009. madfloridian Feb 2016 #55

Dean did a great job when he was head of the DNC. Unfortunately, Dean has now sold out! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #86

Still, at one time the Chairperson was elected. Ligyron Feb 2016 #90

Nailed it! Thanks for the post Dretownblues Feb 2016 #57

kick californiabernin Feb 2016 #59

As usual, you've written a really good post. Thanks, madfloridian. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #60

K&R. I have said many times that I will vote for every Democrat JDPriestly Feb 2016 #61

AYUP. Or as we used to say in the Navy: Fucking "A" ditty bag. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #83

Spot on. There are people who want to care for the least among us. raouldukelives Feb 2016 #65

Hopefully we'll be finished rebuilding the party from the ground up before President Cruz's 2nd term corkhead Feb 2016 #66

K&R grntuscarora Feb 2016 #67

Another great post! Mbrow Feb 2016 #69

Rec to the moon! SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #70

Kicked and recommended! Brilliant! Thank you, madfloridian! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #71

I've been hearing the 'cult' and 'cult leader' accusations Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #78

There is only one woman?! Bet they're all pigment challenged, too. DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2016 #84

Enthusiastic K&R eom Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #87

Afraid to lose their 6 and 7 figure salaries and their inheritor class wealth to their lessers. Festivito Feb 2016 #88

Excellent post once again democrank Feb 2016 #89

Clinton won. Bernie lost. Nitram Feb 2016 #91

do you cut & paste your response to every post?...because it appears your reply islandmkl Feb 2016 #92

Island, your failed attempt at snark is pathetic. The OP wrote... Nitram Feb 2016 #96

well...i have been smacked back...however, you seem to be overly paranoid to think I 'accused' you.. islandmkl Feb 2016 #117

Much as I appreciate your concern for my ability to "absorb its main thrust"... Nitram Feb 2016 #120

Clinton won 2 more national delegates than Sanders. The big winner was the People that rhett o rick Feb 2016 #106

It is Iowa colsohlibgal Feb 2016 #93

Excellent post as usual Mad. Ligyron Feb 2016 #94

Great post and info nyabingi Feb 2016 #98

Great Post - I have been registered as a Democrat Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #99

Great post, thanks. We must get enough votes to overcome the margin of manipulation. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #103

Spot on, as always! Punkingal Feb 2016 #105

As a matter of fact, what you say here isn't true: George II Feb 2016 #110

What happens if Bernie gets the nom., will the Dem party SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #113

They will support him for the most part. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #119

The left really doesn't have a home in the Democratic party any more. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #118

Here Here! RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #121

I'll feel more comfortable when Mr Sanders picks up a few more marginalized demos. malthaussen Feb 2016 #122

Third Way is accepting of corporate money and by extension has protected them, not Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #123

"The trick will be to harness their energy and their money without looking like you are a captive of yodermon Feb 2016 #125

That really got to me badly. madfloridian Feb 2016 #165

That's always the thing, though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #177

Love your first paragraph! staggerleem Feb 2016 #128

Despite her smarts there's more than a hint of Dunning-Kroeger about HRC GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #129

same for local politics and Dem town committees wordpix Feb 2016 #130

They have been interfering in FL politics for ages now. madfloridian Feb 2016 #132

Sorry that was your experience. The entire political system is designed to truedelphi Feb 2016 #166

K/R UglyGreed Feb 2016 #136

That turd way board of trustees list is all I need to know. Ivan Kaputski Feb 2016 #140

ba-a-a-a-a-a! Jean Genie Feb 2016 #146

K&R stage left Feb 2016 #147

If that cabal of Investment Bankers are DEMOCRATS then the Party is over. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #148

Wm Greider says trouble started when party abandoned the working class. He's so right. madfloridian Feb 2016 #154

Great post. You've knocked it out of the park. snagglepuss Feb 2016 #159

The saddest name on that list is Thurgood Marshall, Jr. hifiguy Feb 2016 #163

Always a K&R for you! blackspade Feb 2016 #167

the "Hillary DU Group" probably is the best hope for the Right. :( PatrynXX Feb 2016 #169

Since the racism, sexism stuff is being pushed by Hillary surrogates...they must not need my vote. madfloridian Feb 2016 #170

very good OP Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #171

^ Wilms Feb 2016 #174

DURec # 386. bvar22 Feb 2016 #175

When bvar22 says nice things to me.... madfloridian Feb 2016 #181