2016 Postmortem

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133. He looked terrible

Reply to senz (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:44 PM

Feb 2016

He shouldn't be trotted all over the place speechifying, he is obviously exhausted and not well.

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Every time the party's left raises their little pointy heads and makes noises....this stuff happens. [View all] madfloridian Feb 2016 OP

Even Trump was more gracious. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #1

Yes, he was, surprisingly. madfloridian Feb 2016 #2

Didn't think of it at the time but that's true. Jarqui Feb 2016 #3

I just saw Trevor Noah make that point. Yikes. It's true. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #6

Trevor Noah has established himself as a distinctive and truthful voice in a very short time. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #145

Yep--I've become a fairly regular viewer. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #149

Will need to watch his show. madfloridian Feb 2016 #183

It's true. senz Feb 2016 #15

She has no humility. She is not humble. She is not salt of the earth. She approaches this as if Hiraeth Feb 2016 #16

It was the same in 2008, as grotesque then as now. senz Feb 2016 #46

She has the common touch of Marie Antoinette hifiguy Feb 2016 #156

I don't think she believes that or has said that but Skidmore Feb 2016 #157

I was looking at footage of her somewhere a few days ago when she was First Lady sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #47

Meh. I think he's just more skilled as a politician. merrily Feb 2016 #49

I gave her the benefit of the doubt for a long time. senz Feb 2016 #54

I just wait for someone to post exactly my thoughts then say +1. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #72

It is sad. senz Feb 2016 #137

+1,000 Pretty much the way I am seeing it also. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #82

When the righties attacked Hillary for saying, "It takes a village." I would see red. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #164

I honestly think she has an anti-social personality disorder dorkzilla Feb 2016 #75

I'm not a big fan of Hillary, but this is preposterous. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #112

Your disgust is duly noted dorkzilla Feb 2016 #124

... senz Feb 2016 #142

:) dorkzilla Feb 2016 #144

I truly hope you have your head buried in the sand..... pocoloco Feb 2016 #134

LOL --- "Armchair psychologists are always wrong." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #176

I've had to do quite a bit of research into these things senz Feb 2016 #141

I agree, that’s why I said “personality disorder” in general dorkzilla Feb 2016 #143

another survivor of marriage to NPD here grasswire Feb 2016 #172

That's wrong on so many levels. one_voice Feb 2016 #152

Perhaps. dorkzilla Feb 2016 #155

Really? This is how we win an election? Hekate Feb 2016 #160

I’m not doing anything of the sort dorkzilla Feb 2016 #161

I think people who seek out power and money to the extent Hillary has done, are sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #180

Agreed on all points! nt dorkzilla Feb 2016 #182

Her abused childhood has cast a long, wide and lethal shadow Divernan Feb 2016 #63

Thank you for posting that. If she were private individual I could have compassion for her. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #74

HRC's dad ran as "Democratic leaning independent" & lost. Divernan Feb 2016 #76

two things: (edited) Hiraeth Feb 2016 #81

Thanks Divernan. You put together a lot of information. It's sad and alarming. senz Feb 2016 #151

well, there it is grasswire Feb 2016 #173

He looked terrible arikara Feb 2016 #133

Yes he was. 840high Feb 2016 #21

Indeed he was. Never would I have thought that Trump's campaign was more mature.... George II Feb 2016 #30

Congratulations, you have just crossed over from irritating to irrelevant. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #68

My goodness you are a tolerant person beyond my wildest expectations. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #95

I can understand. and You are right, I am probably too tolerant. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #97

No, don't change I was being hyperbolic, you're fine the way you are. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #104

Ah, thanks Hiraeth Feb 2016 #107

What is telling is that the Oligarchy will do anything to win. We have seen it all before. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #101

"What is telling is that the Oligarchy will do anything to win" And how is that the case.... George II Feb 2016 #109

We are faced with an opponent that has unlimited resources and is not used to losing. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #115

Hillary's loud trumpeting of her "win" lacked maturity. madfloridian Feb 2016 #150

Well, here is her statement from Monday night: George II Feb 2016 #153

True, but he was also a clear second jberryhill Feb 2016 #126

Honestly, that question makes me wonder what would Hillary have acted like if she Hiraeth Feb 2016 #131

Don't worry she'll say nice things humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #178

is that a promise or a threat? Hiraeth Feb 2016 #179

One small correction to your wonderful article. SandersDem Feb 2016 #4

I just saw that! I got that email around 1 am last night...donated then. madfloridian Feb 2016 #10

Sweeeeeet!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #108

Another great OP from you. Thanks! kath Feb 2016 #5

Thanks for the kind words. madfloridian Feb 2016 #168

great post G_j Feb 2016 #7

How very unreasonable of you to actually expect the Democrats to stand for something besides guillaumeb Feb 2016 #8

Oh but of course as soon as we bring up her voting record to prove it VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #77

I believe in evolution. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #116

KnR for visibility. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #9

Kick ReasonableToo Feb 2016 #11

Kick !! FloriTexan Feb 2016 #12

Recommend. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #13

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #14

Lawrence O'Donnell said this evening we might not know who actually won Iowa until June Samantha Feb 2016 #17

Didn't the Iowa Dem party refuse to provide the raw data? madfloridian Feb 2016 #20

madfloridian: see the article in Latest Breakings News entitled something like: Samantha Feb 2016 #33

Thanks, I missed that. She just said no. Yes, it's unbelievable. madfloridian Feb 2016 #34

They are treating his supporters as outsiders, too. senz Feb 2016 #56

Given her obvious affiliation with the Clinton campaign, it's surprising she wouldn't winter is coming Feb 2016 #39

Winning is more important to them than appearing fair. DWS has done nothing fair and doesn't rhett o rick Feb 2016 #100

Could he have grounds to sue, then? Liberty Belle Feb 2016 #53

I don't really think so Samantha Feb 2016 #138

I haven't gotten over it either. senz Feb 2016 #48

Honestly, they do not have it all yet Bettie Feb 2016 #111

A lot of states have automatic recounts for differences less than 0.5% or so, iirc. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #79

States have to have their election law rules clearly defined in the State Constitution Samantha Feb 2016 #139

I have so gotten over being a democrat. I was shocked at how easy it was, I told my Autumn Feb 2016 #18

I only came back to being a Democrat so I can vote for Bernie in the primary. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #37

Bernie's the only reason I re registered as one. After I caucus here in CO I'm out again. Autumn Feb 2016 #38

My wife and I ran into the same Mbrow Feb 2016 #73

The Winslow? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #80

I brought it with. Mbrow Feb 2016 #85

She endorsed a republican opponent? arikara Feb 2016 #135

I left the party 20 or 25 years ago and just came back to vote for Bernie in the primary. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #102

"The trick is to harness their energy & money w/out looking like you're captive to the activis left" 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #19

I get why the politicians and bankers want to be centrist. cui bono Feb 2016 #22

I began to realize that a youth revolution was about to happen... Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #64

Be glad nobody is calling Martin O'Malley a "spoiler" like Nader. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #23

Ironically, in Iowa... malthaussen Feb 2016 #114

agreed jham123 Feb 2016 #127

once again, thanks for a great piece mad. k and r! bbgrunt Feb 2016 #24

DLC/Third Way kept identity politics while opening the door to economic predators. senz Feb 2016 #25

Your first sentence is purest gold. hifiguy Feb 2016 #158

Thanks, hifiguy. senz Feb 2016 #162

not much left to say, except K&R mountain grammy Feb 2016 #26

Bernie/we must be scaring the bejeezus out of the corporations/billionaire class. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #27

Personally i could give a rats ass what the hell they think nolabels Feb 2016 #62

Just like the party of Lincoln hasn't resembled itself in decades, 3rd Way DLCs turned their backs.. MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #28

I think he decided to come in from the cold. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #40

K&R Armstead Feb 2016 #29

Excellent post...!! PoiBoy Feb 2016 #31

Excellent post as always, MadFlo. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #32

K&R Paka Feb 2016 #35

"you did your job"- EXACTLY. And we all remember what happened next, right? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #36

Yep, they just kept preaching "bipartisanship." madfloridian Feb 2016 #44

why, it was almost like some of them were uncomfortable without a divided congress as an excuse NOT Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #58

THANKS For This Great POST... Kicking To get Back To It! n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #41

I love you. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #42

Back at you... madfloridian Feb 2016 #43

When you're right, you're right! zentrum Feb 2016 #45

Thank you Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #50

I think Jon Cowan started the Bernie wants fantasy stuff meme. madfloridian Feb 2016 #184

Now, Bernie has a (D) after his name, not an (I). merrily Feb 2016 #51

Excellent post. You smashed it! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #52

Ooops! Correction: Tim Kaine did not become DNC chair until 2009. madfloridian Feb 2016 #55

Dean did a great job when he was head of the DNC. Unfortunately, Dean has now sold out! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #86

Still, at one time the Chairperson was elected. Ligyron Feb 2016 #90

Nailed it! Thanks for the post Dretownblues Feb 2016 #57

kick californiabernin Feb 2016 #59

As usual, you've written a really good post. Thanks, madfloridian. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #60

K&R. I have said many times that I will vote for every Democrat JDPriestly Feb 2016 #61

AYUP. Or as we used to say in the Navy: Fucking "A" ditty bag. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #83

Spot on. There are people who want to care for the least among us. raouldukelives Feb 2016 #65

Hopefully we'll be finished rebuilding the party from the ground up before President Cruz's 2nd term corkhead Feb 2016 #66

K&R grntuscarora Feb 2016 #67

Another great post! Mbrow Feb 2016 #69

Rec to the moon! SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #70

Kicked and recommended! Brilliant! Thank you, madfloridian! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #71

I've been hearing the 'cult' and 'cult leader' accusations Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #78

There is only one woman?! Bet they're all pigment challenged, too. DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2016 #84

Enthusiastic K&R eom Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #87

Afraid to lose their 6 and 7 figure salaries and their inheritor class wealth to their lessers. Festivito Feb 2016 #88

Excellent post once again democrank Feb 2016 #89

Clinton won. Bernie lost. Nitram Feb 2016 #91

do you cut & paste your response to every post?...because it appears your reply islandmkl Feb 2016 #92

Island, your failed attempt at snark is pathetic. The OP wrote... Nitram Feb 2016 #96

well...i have been smacked back...however, you seem to be overly paranoid to think I 'accused' you.. islandmkl Feb 2016 #117

Much as I appreciate your concern for my ability to "absorb its main thrust"... Nitram Feb 2016 #120

Clinton won 2 more national delegates than Sanders. The big winner was the People that rhett o rick Feb 2016 #106

It is Iowa colsohlibgal Feb 2016 #93

Excellent post as usual Mad. Ligyron Feb 2016 #94

Great post and info nyabingi Feb 2016 #98

Great Post - I have been registered as a Democrat Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #99

Great post, thanks. We must get enough votes to overcome the margin of manipulation. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #103

Spot on, as always! Punkingal Feb 2016 #105

As a matter of fact, what you say here isn't true: George II Feb 2016 #110

What happens if Bernie gets the nom., will the Dem party SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #113

They will support him for the most part. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #119

The left really doesn't have a home in the Democratic party any more. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #118

Here Here! RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #121

I'll feel more comfortable when Mr Sanders picks up a few more marginalized demos. malthaussen Feb 2016 #122

Third Way is accepting of corporate money and by extension has protected them, not Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #123

"The trick will be to harness their energy and their money without looking like you are a captive of yodermon Feb 2016 #125

That really got to me badly. madfloridian Feb 2016 #165

That's always the thing, though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #177

Love your first paragraph! staggerleem Feb 2016 #128

Despite her smarts there's more than a hint of Dunning-Kroeger about HRC GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #129

same for local politics and Dem town committees wordpix Feb 2016 #130

They have been interfering in FL politics for ages now. madfloridian Feb 2016 #132

Sorry that was your experience. The entire political system is designed to truedelphi Feb 2016 #166

K/R UglyGreed Feb 2016 #136

That turd way board of trustees list is all I need to know. Ivan Kaputski Feb 2016 #140

ba-a-a-a-a-a! Jean Genie Feb 2016 #146

K&R stage left Feb 2016 #147

If that cabal of Investment Bankers are DEMOCRATS then the Party is over. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #148

Wm Greider says trouble started when party abandoned the working class. He's so right. madfloridian Feb 2016 #154

Great post. You've knocked it out of the park. snagglepuss Feb 2016 #159

The saddest name on that list is Thurgood Marshall, Jr. hifiguy Feb 2016 #163

Always a K&R for you! blackspade Feb 2016 #167

the "Hillary DU Group" probably is the best hope for the Right. :( PatrynXX Feb 2016 #169

Since the racism, sexism stuff is being pushed by Hillary surrogates...they must not need my vote. madfloridian Feb 2016 #170

very good OP Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #171

^ Wilms Feb 2016 #174

DURec # 386. bvar22 Feb 2016 #175

When bvar22 says nice things to me.... madfloridian Feb 2016 #181