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2016 Postmortem

muriel_volestrangler

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13. The possible Congressional seats to be won aren't necessarily in presidential swing states

Reply to Texas Lawyer (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:01 PM

Sep 2012

or in the states that would be the next easiest for the president to win, like Indiana (though the Missouri senate seat is one race that it would be good to see presidential support in). It's better to concentrate on the margins involved in each seat, not the Electoral College.

I don't think congressional Republicans will consider Obama's margin in the EC for a second. A 'mandate' was just what they wanted to claim for Bush. Remember, they have no honour or shame.

There may be something about the voter fraud/intimidation concerns, but it's probably still easier to prevent that making a difference in the nominated swing states rather than ones where Romney is genuinely ahead.

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Rethinking "what is a 'swing state'"? We must question the narrow conventional view that limits us [View all] Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 OP

PSA: "Swing State" is an opinion, not a fact. bemildred Sep 2012 #1

No. Swing states are very real things thanks to the Electoral College. LovePeacock Sep 2012 #3

"Very Real" opinions about future events. bemildred Sep 2012 #5

The 2008 "swing states" were as follows: LovePeacock Sep 2012 #7

I expect they do something every election, that's not the question. bemildred Sep 2012 #8

If not for Presidential elections.. fun n serious Sep 2012 #2

Swing states have nothing to do with the margin of lead that Obama or Romney may have. former9thward Sep 2012 #4

I'm not suggesting that the campaign ought to devote vast resources to winning NY, CA, or TX. I'm Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 #9

You are probably right but that is not the focus of the Obama campaign. former9thward Sep 2012 #10

I recall that, but that strategy was from a time before the President was a 4-to-1 favorite. Now Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 #11

Because even if those states are in play, they still don't matter. k2qb3 Sep 2012 #6

Three thoughts: First, those states DO matter down-ballot -- the President cannot pass his agenda if Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 #12

The possible Congressional seats to be won aren't necessarily in presidential swing states muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #13

Many of the tightest races are in the "expanded map" winnable states: Senate races in AZ, IN, MO, MT Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 #14

If we can't poll higher in Indiana and Missouri I doubt Arizona or South Carolina or Jennicut Sep 2012 #15

Even if we do not win Arizona, South Carolina, or Georgia, a campaign which lifted the campaign to Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 #16