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NNadir

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24. This is the best answer in the set. Some comments...
Tue Oct 31, 2023, 03:39 PM
Oct 2023

For all atmospheric games (excepting trace anthropogenic gases) "room temperature" (never mind core temperature) is above the critical temperature. Thus a liquid phase cannot exist although the system can be supercritical above the critical pressure. The nonzero pressure is as noted in the post to which I'm responding, but stated differently, is a function of asymmetry. Even though the gravitational acceleration at the center point appears to approach zero, the gas is compressed by the apparent "weight" of the gas above it.

The Earth, I believe, is not massive enough to create sufficient pressure for solidifying common atmospheric games but if I correctly recall the large gas giants are, and can in fact induce multiple solid phases, for instance, metallic hydrogen.

I believe some of these pressures have been experimentally observed using devices like diamond anvils. I seem to recall this was a topic discussed by Raold Hoffman in a lecture I attended many years ago on the topic of extreme pressures.

One may intuitively gain insight to this question of whether the pressure is zero at the center of a gas object by asking if Jupiter is hollow.

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a physics question [View all] moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 OP
Use the Pressure as a function of depth equation JT45242 Oct 2023 #1
another wrench to throw in the calculations moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #4
And as you go significantly deeper into the earth, the strength of gravity will weaken as well. Salviati Oct 2023 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Oct 2023 #2
thats roughly the answer i calculated moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #3
This reminds me of college TlalocW Oct 2023 #5
I'm surprised that prompted heated debate caraher Oct 2023 #22
If you substitute air, with water, it becomes easier to imagine. The water pressure at the bottom Chainfire Oct 2023 #6
How about this? usonian Oct 2023 #7
Not quite caraher Oct 2023 #23
A column of water, regardless of the cross-sectional area of the "channel" Chainfire Oct 2023 #8
if you dropped a ball thru the earth it would oscillate from one side to the other moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #9
That is what I assumed as a 12 year old. That it would bounce back and forth until it slowed to a stop in Chainfire Oct 2023 #15
air is compressable moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #10
Of course, but at the pressures that exist under the eggshell thin crust Warpy Oct 2023 #11
i dont know if it would be liquid or solid or gas moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #12
Air, would certainly be a gas in a zero gravity system, unless it was super cold, I don't believe the proposition Chainfire Oct 2023 #14
PSI is a measure of weight. Chainfire Oct 2023 #13
no it isnt moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #16
It certainly is. Pounds per square inch, as referring to a column of water, for instance Chainfire Oct 2023 #17
Yes, and weight is the relevant issue, I think William Seger Oct 2023 #18
No, it isn't. sl8 Oct 2023 #19
Yes, but in this case, the pressure is due to the weight William Seger Oct 2023 #20
This would be a nice homework problem for an upper-level college course caraher Oct 2023 #21
This is the best answer in the set. Some comments... NNadir Oct 2023 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir Oct 2023 #25
At first your plumbing would be clogged up by water and carbon dioxide... hunter Oct 2023 #27
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