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Voltaire2

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63. And one of the references is now generally

Mon Feb 19, 2024, 11:31 AM

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acknowledged as a simple forgery by a monk/scribe. The other is also somewhat suspect. And as you note, Josephus is simply repeating the stories he heard, he is not a witness to any of it.

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And one of the references is now generally Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #63

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I have no idea, and no. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #15

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