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trev

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35. I understand what you're saying. And I don't really disagree with it.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:40 PM
Aug 2019

But I'm a student of consciousness, and I've done a lot of investigation into the subject.

The University of Virginia has an annex devoted to the study of consciousness. One of the things they investigate is reincarnation. They currently have 2000 documented cases, collected over 50 years, that might be evidence of it--or at least, of some form of consciousness persisting after death. This is not in their Religion Department; it's part of their medical curriculum.

Medical science is also changing its definition of when death actually occurs, since neuronal activity in test animals can be restored long after brain death.

None of this means that reincarnation is a real thing, but it does show that there may be something going on. I don't believe in the religious versions of reincarnation myself (I'm a science-trained atheist), but I find some of these examples to be intriguing.

Quantum mechanics suggests that subatomic particles may have some form of consciousness. This is what caused Einstein to reject the theory out of hand; he never accepted it. Yet today we are building quantum computers. QM is established science. We still don't know what it might mean that "particles are conscious," but the experimental results are thought-provoking. If--and that's still a big if--it turns out that this is the case, it would be only a short step to positing a continuance of consciousness after physical death. This would fit in with the Buddhist concept of reincarnation, which is a little bit different than the Hindu version.

There are documented cases of people who have received organ transplants, and who afterward take on aspects of the donor's personality. Might this be a form of reincarnation?

My attitude about all this is: The universe created me. If it can do it once, it can do it again. That doesn't mean I'll be who I am now, or even that I'll reappear on Earth. (In fact, I highly doubt it.) To take Carl Sagan out of context, if I can only exist on Earth, then the universe is a real waste of space.

As to your other point, Buddhists believe in the doctrine of Anatman, which means "no soul." So your assertion is incorrect.

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"You really have to over-interpret to find anything that you can marginally say might have ... trev Jul 2019 #1
Thanks for the over interpretation. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #4
Oh, good. trev Jul 2019 #7
myths no more factual or remarkable than any other ancient myths Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #8
Hm. trev Jul 2019 #9
Sounds familiar Major Nikon Jul 2019 #10
And I'm looking for that evidence. trev Jul 2019 #11
Sure, hypothetical in the exact same way others posit an interventionalist god Major Nikon Aug 2019 #12
But there is a difference. trev Aug 2019 #13
How do you know the things you describe weren't caused by leprechauns? Major Nikon Aug 2019 #21
I don't, of course. trev Aug 2019 #23
Neither do you have any knowledge of the capabilities of little green men Major Nikon Aug 2019 #24
We weren't talking about little green men, trev Aug 2019 #25
Actually the term comes from the realm of science fiction Major Nikon Aug 2019 #26
As I've already said, trev Aug 2019 #27
So why not explore the possibilities of leprechauns? Major Nikon Aug 2019 #28
Because, while I may read some of the nonsense, trev Aug 2019 #29
I'm not calling you a religionist Major Nikon Aug 2019 #30
I just got through telling you trev Aug 2019 #31
Regardless you are insisting others disprove them Major Nikon Aug 2019 #32
There is nothing but anecdotal evidence (one anecdote, to be exact) for: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #36
You missed the part where I said trev Aug 2019 #38
Yeah, and who were the Death Eaters? trotsky Aug 2019 #16
LOL trev Aug 2019 #17
Brother, do you have time to talk about Harry Potter and his plan for your life? n/t trotsky Aug 2019 #19
Well, at least trev Aug 2019 #20
We forget that we are humans Cartaphelius Jul 2019 #2
For those who believe without evidence, contrary evidence will not sway... Moostache Jul 2019 #3
I disagree on including Buddhists. trev Jul 2019 #5
What Buddha taught doesn't matter. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #14
What wacko things are they doing? trev Aug 2019 #15
Surely you aware of what's going on in Myanmar. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #18
Yes, there is that. trev Aug 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #33
I've had too much coffee today. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #34
I understand what you're saying. And I don't really disagree with it. trev Aug 2019 #35
There must be a loop hole somewhere in safeinOhio Jul 2019 #6
Is the Christian, etc God limited by the speed of light? If not, could he be persuaded to contact muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #37
Some versions of god trev Aug 2019 #39
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