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33. He's not the best at it but he's comfortable with it..
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 07:02 PM
Mar 2014
And her results, described in the latest HuffPo piece are absolutely predictable given Ecklund’s academic history: Science and religion are friends! People see them as compatible!


What? Miracles? Well, science used to consider them, but it never helped our understanding of nature.


Indeed, tests of whether miracles occur (studies of the efficacy of intercessory prayer, investigations of supposed miracles like the Shroud of Turin, and so on) have always shown no evidence that God stuck his hand in. But he could have: all he would have to do is, on one night, to rearrange the stars in a pattern that spelled out “I am who I am” in Hebrew. Science would have a tough time explaining that one!


Quoting Natalie Angier:
I admit I’m surprised whenever I encounter a religious scientist. How can a bench-hazed Ph.D., who might in an afternoon deftly purée a colleague’s PowerPoint presentation on the nematode genome into so much fish chow, then go home, read in a two-thousand-year-old chronicle, riddled with internal contradictions, of a meta-Nobel discovery like “Resurrection from the Dead,” and say, gee, that sounds convincing? Doesn’t the good doctor wonder what the control group looked like?


After all, most religionists pride themselves on modernity, and don’t want to be seen as unfriendly to a science that has improved their lives immeasurably. The real conflict—the one that will be with us so long as religion pretends to find truth—is between rationality and superstition.


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Religion tends to be incredibly myopic. Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #1
An interesting analysis and she makes some very valid points about the usefulness of this cbayer Mar 2014 #2
The most important takeaway, cbayer, is what we should do when they conflict. trotsky Mar 2014 #3
I don't think the author of the article would agree that religion can be of value el_bryanto Mar 2014 #6
Religion can of course be of value to an individual. trotsky Mar 2014 #7
I'd agree - but then I've always felt that science and religion/philosophy el_bryanto Mar 2014 #8
100% agree with this Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #31
And Templeton funds these studies because that's their mission. longship Mar 2014 #4
I didn't really get the Templeton connection until recently. cbayer Mar 2014 #5
Well, I agree that they have no common standing. longship Mar 2014 #9
They are not succeeding in Texas. okasha Mar 2014 #11
Well, there's this. longship Mar 2014 #12
The creationists influence a relatively small number of schools and students. okasha Mar 2014 #13
That's good to hear. longship Mar 2014 #15
You're very welcome. okasha Mar 2014 #17
Jerry's metaphysical naturalism tolerates no dissent. rug Mar 2014 #10
No, that's an obvious falsehood. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #14
That's an obvious misunderstanding. rug Mar 2014 #16
No, you're simply wrong, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #18
That's simply because he lacks the power to do so. rug Mar 2014 #19
What evidence do you have for that? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #24
It has nothing to do with the First Amendment. rug Mar 2014 #25
I understand how the word "vapid" in the title of the article LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #30
He's not the best at it but he's comfortable with it.. rug Mar 2014 #33
Thank you. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #34
Who's Jerry? edhopper Mar 2014 #20
The OP author, Jerry Coyne. rug Mar 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author edhopper Mar 2014 #23
Jerry Coyne wtote the articlr. okasha Mar 2014 #26
Oops edhopper Mar 2014 #28
Seems to me that edhopper Mar 2014 #22
why religion and science have nothing to do with each other cheyanne Mar 2014 #27
Welcome back to the religion group cheyanne. cbayer Mar 2014 #29
I think many people are resistant to change or take a reflexive defensive stance as it happens. pinto Mar 2014 #32
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