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gollygee

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20. We (and by we I mean white people)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jul 2016

Tend to define things in the way that works best for us. This is human nature. It is best for us to define "racism" in a way that doesn't apply to us individually, so we make it mean "horrible people who do horrible things." If we define it instead as anything that supports white supremacy, then we have to do more introspection. This makes us uncomfortable, so we react negatively and fight against any definition that doesn't work for us.

And yes, I think supporting a power structure that keeps a group of people oppressed is worse than an individual mean action that does not cause or support oppression. If I were a victim of racial bigotry, I could easily move to a situation where I didn't face it. And it would be very rare for me to be in that situation in the first place. (Including when I am a racial minority in a group - I have never felt oppressed in that situation.) The worst potential would be if I had a boss who disliked me due to my race, but even then that would be a rare situation and it would be one job - switching jobs (difficult as that might be) would solve it. If I were a person of color, I would face that all the time everywhere, and to at least some degree in every job. These are clearly not equivalent.

You probably didn't actually need an answer, but I offer it for anyone reading the thread.

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I dont' know why Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #1
Or, hopefully, a more accurate description ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #2
No Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #5
I am not sure I see the difference between a racist act verses a bigoted act. As to the first point still_one Jul 2016 #3
Bigotry is related to the individual; whereas, racism is institutional ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #6
And yet institutional bigotry exists, making that definintion insufficient. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #7
That is true, though it does not apply in terms of race/ethnicity ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #8
Thank-you, that was a great explanation still_one Jul 2016 #12
I'm so glad you understood that ... and will add ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #13
Excellent n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #14
Okay, I get it. I'll start using the words that way. Thanks for the nudge. Nitram Jul 2016 #19
I must say that I agree, the term is over, and incorrectly, used ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #21
It is difficult to change the common meanings of words, and to persuade the public to stop... Nitram Jul 2016 #23
Well, I'll be ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #24
Might I suggest Uponthegears Jul 2016 #4
maybe people support the definitions that reinforce their own views. nt msongs Jul 2016 #9
Academics might; but, those articles rarely see the light of day because of the peer-review process. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #10
It's a reactionary viewpoint, imo. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #11
The words "racism" and "racist" are meaningless in today's American society. MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #15
It's not meaningless to it's victims. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #17
I agree, but there's a lack of sympathy FOR those victims because the word has been co-opted. MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #25
I understand that the academic community has decided that racism requires... Nitram Jul 2016 #16
You have defined the term (race-based) bigotry ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #18
We (and by we I mean white people) gollygee Jul 2016 #20
No ... It is important that others see things phrased a different way. Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #22
That always baffles me too, 1SB. lovemydog Jul 2016 #26
An awful lot of white people, men especially The Polack MSgt Jul 2016 #27
You nailed it JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #28
I take to applying the definition of a word from a linguistic approach. Glassunion Jul 2016 #29
I'll stick with the definition the academics have concluded, more accurately describes the phenomena 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #30
We are (hopefully) all looking to ending racism. Glassunion Jul 2016 #31
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