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In reply to the discussion: (From Number23) AA Posters and Fam: How do you feel about the death penalty? [View all]JustAnotherGen
(37,291 posts)It was abolished in all states in the 1880's - brought back during Benis reign. Still nothing like the 80K in Germany - I think more like 80 people were killed under Fascism in Italy during this time?
Last one was in the mid 1940's for some guys in Sicily who threw people into a well while they were alive.
They abolished it for treason, military and war crimes in the early 1990's.
Re Race - their legal code is different -
If you are arrested you are presumed guilty. Defense has to prove innocence. A murder trial can happen over and over and over again. You can be found guilty, then innocent, then guilty. Then absolved by the high courts due to malicious prosecution.
There was a case of an American who went through this recently - cant remember her name. Americans couldn't wrap their heads around the concept. They thought it was stupid, backwards, etc etc.
Really? She was afforded an opportunity that thousands and thousands of black men in America were never given. Who is stupid and backwards?
Who are the barbaric savages?
Who has malicious prosecution?
I would rather a guilty man go free than an innocent woman spend her lifetime in prison (Italy).
Note - in 1991 my cousin was the 13th murder in Rochester NY. His Volvo, his Rolex were left intact. He had about $13 on him - his wallet was left without the money. He had gone to Wegmans (asked his dad for some money as he didn't have an ATM card and it was after bank close) to get his girlfriend with a cold Kleenex, OJ and NyQuil. He had a kid trying to join a gang / prove himself put a bullet in his face.
His murderer was excused for flipping on them in 1995 after a massive drug bust. It went down about a few days after the Oklahoma City bombing.
And I know this because I dated an A.D.A. Who was a young prosecutor when it happened (the bust) and who showed me the kids statement almost ten years later. That was the Who who did it. My cousin (that police report) was actually presumed Guilty and Deserving of it. He was on his way to law school in D.C. The following fall. Yeah - black man so no humans involved.
I don't come from a lollipops and rainbow place on this. Now go read my posts an Trayvon, Jordan, Tamir. . . Look at my gun control stance. Look at how I feel about treating drug addicts (purchasers).
I'm sick and tired of black men and boys being guilty for their own murders - and I'm sick and tired of innocent black men being murdered by the state.
Our Justice system is flawed.
We are not "good enough " as a country to have a death penalty.
You know what? No country is.
It's just some countries have enough good sense to say - We aren't perfect . . . We aren't savage barbarians. So we aren't doing this.
Now ask me how I feel about gun control reform, how we treat drug addicts, and lifetime sentences being truly lifetime sentences.