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Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Just looking for input. [View all]sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)530. Yup.  America needs a handgun ban to reduce killings
        What those articles are all saying is that more innocent people get killed by handguns in self defense than non-innocents.  Including kids.  
So on net, handguns used in self defense harm people. 
 The self defense line is pure GOP propaganda.  
The best solution is to ban handguns.  
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        no...it means oh lord the sky is falling...when Reagan banned Ak47 type weapons I didn't
        beachbum bob
        Jun 2016
        #451
      
        
        I've been reading a while and I wonder why "gun nut" is fine but "gun grabber" is verboten.
        Bill O-Rights
        Jan 2012
        #3
      
        
        I got a 7-0 hide for terming Chicago's gun laws  "Jim (large, raucous black bird)."
        Eleanors38
        May 2016
        #448
      
        
        "Bullet hose."  Water restrictions being what they are in Texas, I'll take anything. nt
        SteveW
        Jan 2012
        #7
      
        
        That intervening space between your safe origin and safe destination is so inconvenient, isn't it? n
        krispos42
        Jul 2012
        #87
      
        
        Zimmerman is hardly an example of the majority of people who have a concealed carry permit ...
        spin
        Mar 2013
        #137
      
        
        found today: "...all guns sales are subject to federal background checks."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Feb 2012
        #34
      
        
        How about "...bad advice written to tailor to the gun nuttery of white suburbanites."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Feb 2012
        #36
      
        
        You have to distrust lots of people to routinely strap on a gun before venturing out.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Mar 2012
        #58
      
        
        I would like to see the Other Side start a thread listing their nominations
        Tuesday Afternoon
        Jun 2012
        #83
      
        
        "What I meant was, sometimes you have to die for something I believe in."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2012
        #108
      
        
        Guns are destructive, they are lawless, they are a serious public health issue.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Nov 2012
        #110
      
        
        and "guns are unpatriotic."  Really.  Bunch of dope-smoking commies in my safe. nt
        Eleanors38
        Nov 2012
        #111
      
        
        "The only way to stop a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Apr 2013
        #144
      
        
        "my precious".  The group is the most pathetic set of low-information whiners I have ever know.
        NYC_SKP
        May 2013
        #146
      
        
        Let's playing Jeopardy and answer your question with answers, rather than questions:
        Howzit
        May 2013
        #150
      
        
        NRA logic: It's better understood if you remember it originates on the planet Bizarro.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Sep 2013
        #186
      
        
        Do you think the 2A protects an individual right to own guns? Just wondering. nt
        hack89
        Mar 2014
        #212
      
        
        Wow........looks like Harry Reid stands in strong opposition to punitive lawsuits
        pablo_marmol
        Jun 2015
        #354
      
        
        "...weaklings who need to have guns strapped on in order not to be frightened of everything..."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Mar 2014
        #225
      
        
        guns and ammunition are for settling personal grievances, enabling crime, and generally lashing out
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Mar 2014
        #227
      
        
        "Killing machine, death spewer, semi-automatic assault rifle...all the same"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2014
        #243
      
        
        "...what may issue does, is allow people...in public, to notify management or call authority..."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2014
        #248
      
        
        "The gun industry is the only industry that makes products without safety features."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2014
        #249
      
        
        Yes, so we need to help them, poor little ones who cannot think for themselves....
        NYC_SKP
        Jul 2014
        #255
      
        
        "...the NRA and their buddy gun manufacturing industry is busy selling guns to children..."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Aug 2014
        #262
      
        
        Federal Judge Tries To Make It Easier To Obtain A Murder Weapon In California
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Sep 2014
        #265
      
        
        "Gun nuts are rather racist. Check out NRA board members, attendees at gun shows, gun stores, etc...
        friendly_iconoclast
        Oct 2014
        #275
      
        
        "Just hug your gun and get your orgasm and to hell with everyone and eveything else."
        beevul
        Oct 2014
        #277
      
        
        "I've shown that COLLECTIVE rights exist and no definition of "right" can change that fact."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2014
        #281
      
        
        "It doesn't matter how many DGU's there were"- from the same poster
        friendly_iconoclast
        Oct 2014
        #282
      
        
        "(O)pen carry IS a white privilege, and a very big privilege, at that"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Oct 2014
        #283
      
        
        "(W)hen you buy a handgun you have already committed murder in your mind"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Nov 2014
        #290
      
        
        "So, again, I say shoot them on sight, let their bodies rot in the streets as a message..."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Nov 2014
        #292
      
        
        "(A)mmunition is not protected under any stretch of any amendment"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2014
        #296
      
        
        "There are many things I have little knowledge of but it isn't painful or ignorance."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2014
        #303
      
        
        "Gun culture is a bigger threat to our way of life than international terrorism."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jan 2015
        #315
      
        
        "As if the gun-humpers don't all cum in their pants during a Liam Neeson flick." n/t
        beevul
        Jan 2015
        #316
      
        
        "(I)t happens every day...the terrorism of 300 million guns in America."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jan 2015
        #317
      
        
        "Emotionally, I'm cool with guilt-by-association for anyone who attends gun shows."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jan 2015
        #321
      
        
        "All Gun Owners And Gun Apologists Should Hang Their Heads In Shame"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2015
        #322
      
        
        "they will shoot anyone who opposes the public carry of lethal weapons by Bubba and Mrs. Bubba."n/t
        beevul
        Feb 2015
        #323
      
        
        "We don't want to take away your guns, or ban and confiscate them."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2015
        #324
      
        
        " It takes a special kind of sick bastard to celebrate wife beaters having guns..."
        beevul
        Mar 2015
        #328
      
        
        "A true progressive would be cheering anything that pisses off the gun running NRA..."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Mar 2015
        #330
      
        
        '...opposition to gun control...' is an '...unconscionable position...'
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2015
        #336
      
        
        "I don't give a flying fuck why those deaths (of children) might be fewer."
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2015
        #337
      
        
        I've often claimed that control advocates embrace willful ignorance
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2015
        #341
      
        
        "I've often been glad I don't own a gun as I think I'd have killed somebody."
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2015
        #338
      
        
        But my personal favorite so far from the comments on repeal the 2A...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2015
        #343
      
        
        Another prize: "Poor babies, they'll be fondling their gunz like rosaries."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2015
        #351
      
        
        "I suppose the (gun) license could also screen to see if you were on a terrorist watch list."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jun 2015
        #355
      
        
        "If it is CLEAR you are supporting gun control and your adversary is progun, odds are..."
        beevul
        Jun 2015
        #359
      
        
        "...the mere sight of such gun paraphernalia often arouses online orgasms over there."
        beevul
        Jun 2015
        #361
      
        
        "When someone buys or carries a gun, it's darn sure a symptom of their hatred."
        beevul
        Jun 2015
        #364
      
        
        "I'd support use of every available technology to detect those who can't leave home without a gun."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jun 2015
        #366
      
        
        "Why do some folks cheer on arms merchants when...they kick families of gun victims in the face?"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jul 2015
        #372
      
        
        Silencers...are subject to minimal federal regulation and already banned in 10 states...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jul 2015
        #374
      
        
        "We are coming for your guns because your guns keep coming for us."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jul 2015
        #376
      
        
        "...has been a nauseating level of brazen behavior recently from the right wing gun nut ammosexuals.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jul 2015
        #380
      
        
        "at least i don't love guns more than life and then twist things to support my bloodlust."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Aug 2015
        #381
      
        
        "Since you stand proud with donP on this, copy & paste from the crosspost thread exactly where any..
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Sep 2015
        #384
      
        
        at least the alleged shamers are not piling up corpses by the tens of thousands
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2015
        #387
      
        
        "I don't understand this level of paranoia, do you live in a war zone?"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Dec 2015
        #403
      
        
        "Abolish the 2nd Amendment and confiscate all 300 million guns in the U.S."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2015
        #405
      
        
        "the vast majority of Americans support common-sense gun controls"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jan 2016
        #412
      
        
        "...self medicate with firearms to protect themselves from imaginary dangers"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jan 2016
        #416
      
        
        "...society pays a pretty high cost so you can go to the store with a gun or two strapped on."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jan 2016
        #417
      
        
        "Ownership of military-style rifles and machine guns should be restricted"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Feb 2016
        #420
      
        
        "I'm not going to expose my family to murderous OPEN CARRY ammosexuals..."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Feb 2016
        #421
      
        
        "The sad part of the story is that the boy did not kill the person responsible, mom and/or dad"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Apr 2016
        #438
      
        
        Hostility and advocacy for violence seems to be somewhat common traits...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Apr 2016
        #440
      
        
        "They acted as cops, judges, and executioners. BIg difference between having and using"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2016
        #444
      
        
        I felt the admins should be aware of the host's attempt to turn Outdoor Life into another gun forum.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2016
        #449
      
        
        "When that (having a gun for their defense) happens here, folks call 911...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jun 2016
        #450
      
        
        "Criminal activities" would be correct. Mass murder of those unaware of a threat is a bit different
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jun 2016
        #455
      
        
        "Truthfully, I'm not much on the Constitution... I believe it little better than a guide"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jun 2016
        #456
      
        
        If respondents are so shamed by society about having guns they lie about it..."
        beevul
        Jul 2016
        #459
      
        
        "Gunners are suspicious people due to their love of guns and itching to pull a trigger."
        beevul
        Jul 2016
        #466
      
        
        Police "need free reign to search any home and car in search of illegal weapons."
        beevul
        Aug 2016
        #478
      
        
        "Contrary to the gun nut mantra, it is indeed the gun that ultimately kills...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Aug 2016
        #484
      
        
        "The nutters will be along any minute now to explain this away." n/t
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Aug 2016
        #491
      
        
        "If you see a non-LEO with a gun in a non-appropriate place, scream bloody murder."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Sep 2016
        #493
      
        
        "The only people I have encountered with AR-15ish penis enlargers are open carry assholes...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Sep 2016
        #504
      
        
        "Silencers...really don't silence and only serve the purpose of making your gun longer"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2016
        #509
      
        
        "Ultimately I realized the gun rights people are just freaking nuts."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Dec 2016
        #511
      
        
        "I dont think we humans are mature enough to wield something as powerful as a gun."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Dec 2016
        #512
      
        
        "Actually, no Democrat was ever "gonna take away your gunz." Regulate them? Yes.Take them away? No..
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2017
        #519
      
        
        "Lax" gun laws elsewhere are not responsible for murders in Chicago
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2017
        #544
      
        
        Kates, Mauser is a false opinion piece by pro-gun, pro-killing advocates - SNOPES.
        sharedvalues
        May 2017
        #533
      
        
        I believe you are confused, please read the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution.  
        oneshooter
        May 2017
        #547
      
        
        An obvious attempt at moral panic-mongering: "Won't somebody *please* think of the children?"
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2017
        #555
      
        
        Obvious pics of dead kids ...and dead adults. Killed by guns. Thanks, Scalia.
        sharedvalues
        May 2017
        #563
      
        
        BTW, "it's to save children" is an old, dishonorable political schtick:
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2017
        #571
      
        
        I'll just keep stating the truth, which the pro-gun lobby tries to obscure
        sharedvalues
        May 2017
        #572
      
        
        No doubt while doing so you'll be putting much wear on your computers' keyboard...
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2017
        #573
      
        
        And you are doing what, exactly, to bring this about? Fine words butter no parsnips
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2017
        #552
      
        
        "Expanded background checks to include local police departments needs to be implemented in order...
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jul 2017
        #579
      
        
        "Apparently gun care is more important than people care to gun lovers."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Nov 2017
        #588
      
        
        "What a great idea-give everyone AR-15s and only dozens will die!"
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Nov 2017
        #589
      
        
        "How nice that BATFE still has this sort of information available...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Nov 2017
        #590
      
        
        This is in Holland folks...not bound by the narrow-minded thinking of USA gun worshippers.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2018
        #592
      
        
        I decided it was worth displaying how the winds of anti-rights thinking have changed...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2018
        #594
      
        
        "If you buy guns, stop. If you buy ammo, stop. If you belong to the NRA, quit."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jan 2019
        #599
      
        
        "I guess he was selling them illegally which was probably no different than what gun shows do."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        May 2019
        #606
      
        
        (T)he NRA...is a terrorist organization that advocates for getting our kids killed at schools
        friendly_iconoclast
        May 2019
        #608
      
        
        There Group Host posted that and if I posted the same thing he would ban me instantly
        Alea
        May 2019
        #611
      
        
        "Then there's all the parts/accessories/nomenclature hunting-and-gathering...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jun 2019
        #614
      
        
        Why the fuck do you need an AR-15 to fish? That is a bullshit law and those men have tiny penises.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jul 2019
        #616
      
        
        Simply ban "movie merchandise" guns like AR-15s and AK-47s at the federal level.
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jul 2019
        #617
      
        
        "Owning a lot of guns makes you an insecure loser, not special in any way."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Aug 2019
        #620
      
        
        "...let's just ban ALL semiautomatics. Then we don't need a definition at all."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Aug 2019
        #621
      
        
        I've long believed that every single Repuke in the country is a terrorist....
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Sep 2019
        #624
      
        
        "Banning assault weapons is a good start, though obviously not an end in itself"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2019
        #627
      
        
        A fresh one: "2008 Heller and 2011 McD misinterpretations of the 2ndA are unconstitutional...
        friendly_iconoclast
        Nov 2020
        #638
      
        
        "We can expect ignorant white wingers to breach DU's protection thru the Gungeon."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2020
        #639
      
        
        "(F)uck it, take 'em all and round up the people that don't comply."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Dec 2020
        #640
      
        
        "Every gun lover is a potential terrorist, a potential suicide, an accident waiting to happen."
        friendly_iconoclast
        Jan 2021
        #641
      
        
        As silly as that thread is, I'm glad it happened. I learned about the Nuclear Boy Scout.
        Decoy of Fenris
        Mar 2021
        #646
      
        
        When 3 out of 34 posters on a thread are against gun control, it's been "gunswarmed".
        Dial H For Hero
        Mar 2021
        #648
      
        
        I quite agree.  I can't recall the last time I saw such a discussion change anyone's mind.
        Dial H For Hero
        Mar 2021
        #650
      
        
        from GD: "But Whites do get shot. In fact, I'd like to see more armed rubes shot."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Apr 2021
        #652
      
        
        All PGR's owners should be licensed and registered IMHO. PGRs are designed for mass kill not defense
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Jan 2022
        #654
      
        
        If the 2nd Amendment won't let us block the sale of assault rifles...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Sep 2022
        #660
      
  