but he passed away a few years ago and I have no idea where to find the family now. The gun he had was a single shot, single barrel and he paid 40 bucks for it a good 25 years ago, new by the way. I'm not wanting to spend a lot of money for what I'm looking for such as the judge or the bond brand. anyways what I'm looking for is no longer than maybe 4.5 or 5 inches long although I believe I remember it being about 4 inches max. Very small and very cheap little 410 chambered designed to kill snakes with. The one Carl my friend had with 7 bird shot shot a pattern of about a foot in diameter at about 8 feet, exactly what I'm looking for. i'm heading to the local gun shop to see if he can help me find what I'm looking for. Their out there all I need to do is find where that out there is.
Thanks for helping me though, I appreciate it very much.
Peace 
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