Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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79. you obviously didn't read the link

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:01 PM

Mar 2014

Had you taken the time, you would find the answer in the first paragraph:

Also, if I don't have anything of value to add in GD or any of my subscriptions I read, I don't say it. If I do, I do. I'm not a one liner kind of guy. If a post in GD mentions something about something stupid Bachman said, I don't type "what an idiot" although I would be thinking it simply because I don't think it would add anything to the conversation.

That is your answer. I read through them while drinking morning coffee. If I have something to add, I do. If I don't, I don't. For example:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024721955
Since everyone there agrees that whoever came up with that rule has their head up their ass, I don't feel compelled to say the same thing in my own words.

There are a lot of liberals who are not for gun control, and there are a lot of right wingers, like Howard and Kristol, who are.

you can be conservative, that isn't the issue.

Actually, that is

i'm just asking because i don't want to invest/waste my time arguing with someone so far from me politically that it's pointless to try to get to some agreement here with them.

I doubt we disagree on much other than guns.

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The AMA opposes any law that bars doctors from having conversations about gun safety, do you agree? [View all] CreekDog Mar 2014 OP

I think doctors should not have any bans on any conversations with their patients. lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #1

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Mar 2014 #101

+100 nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #130

I support a law that bars doctors rrneck Mar 2014 #2

what are examples of lifestyle choices? CreekDog Mar 2014 #4

Weeeellllll, rrneck Mar 2014 #6

that's the only lifestyle choice you can think of? CreekDog Mar 2014 #7

No rrneck Mar 2014 #10

how many doctors do you know that would refuse to provide care to gun owners? CreekDog Mar 2014 #11

None, right now. But... MicaelS Mar 2014 #12

"None" --thank you for playing CreekDog Mar 2014 #14

Humans killed each other for thousands of years.. MicaelS Mar 2014 #17

you're changing the subject CreekDog Mar 2014 #18

Refusing treatment. Straw Man Mar 2014 #23

Yeah, but click on page 2. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #100

Do you think that doctors are a special class? Straw Man Mar 2014 #103

If she won't give him answers, he can't do his job. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #115

Not true at all. Straw Man Mar 2014 #132

You see offense where there is none. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #133

Refusal to treat is not offense? Straw Man Mar 2014 #135

It's not arrogance. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #136

Call it what you want. Straw Man Mar 2014 #137

I think the AAP's position on that amounts to the same position that the far right AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #138

Semantics, perhaps. Straw Man Mar 2014 #140

Safe storage is hardly 'gun control', when you suggest the individual do it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #142

Perhaps you forgot ... Straw Man Mar 2014 #144

All alternatives under the heading of 'keep guns away from kids'. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #145

Questions? Straw Man Mar 2014 #148

We are using these words differently. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #149

I guess so. Straw Man Mar 2014 #150

Someone on DU might Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #27

That ethos no longer applies. MicaelS Mar 2014 #34

again.. dehumanization from us the supposed progressives SQUEE Mar 2014 #39

I think that's a sad commentary on pediatrics. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #58

I bet if a guy meanit Mar 2014 #52

None. rrneck Mar 2014 #21

Are you lacking in current events? ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #41

Some pediatricians have told anti-vaxxer parents that they will have to find another provider Tanuki Mar 2014 #19

No. rrneck Mar 2014 #20

Ha! Guns and ammunition are highly dangerous. Loudly Mar 2014 #28

The greatest sociteal pathogen rrneck Mar 2014 #29

An ideology which simply holds Loudly Mar 2014 #32

That right has existed since the beginning of time. rrneck Mar 2014 #35

Here. This is for you. Loudly Mar 2014 #67

Here, this is for you. rrneck Mar 2014 #70

A reality being imposed upon all of society to perpetuate the myth of a pretend "right." Loudly Mar 2014 #73

Horseshit. rrneck Mar 2014 #82

What do guns and ammunition have to do with nature? Loudly Mar 2014 #83

Because rrneck Mar 2014 #84

I think you've reached the end of your intellectual rope. uncommonlink Mar 2014 #87

If you're going to spread untruths, and expect not to be called on it, do it somewhere else. beevul Mar 2014 #92

Never seen a better opportunity to put things into perspective. beevul Mar 2014 #105

Translation: Guns are not responsible for gun deaths. Loudly Mar 2014 #108

Responsibility... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #109

And the weather is not responsible for my frozen nuts. Loudly Mar 2014 #110

I would say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #111

It is if one believes in animism, as sharesunited/Loudly does... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #113

They certainly don't pull the trigger by themselves. beevul Mar 2014 #128

Do you have functional hands? Then you have "convenient means of depriving others... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #51

Good book. rrneck Mar 2014 #63

Not without getting blood all over yourself. Loudly Mar 2014 #66

Yet we have fewer murders today than back when it was "up close and personal" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #112

Hooray for survivability. Loudly Mar 2014 #114

More like "Hooray for declining violent crime rates" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #116

His decision-making process was obviously affected by how handy the gun was. Loudly Mar 2014 #117

No doubt the situation would have been better if dad hadn't had a gun friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #119

Thank you for not muddying the waters with some claim Loudly Mar 2014 #121

What 'pretend Constitutional "right"' might that be, Shares? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #122

Highly dangerous if used irresponsibly uncommonlink Mar 2014 #30

next we gun owners are to be labeled as untermenschen? SQUEE Mar 2014 #36

I oppose any ban on speech, but gejohnston Mar 2014 #3

but you talk about gun safety all the time and you don't have the medical background to talk CreekDog Mar 2014 #5

there are no medical aspects of gun safety gejohnston Mar 2014 #8

there are no medical aspects when a person is shot? CreekDog Mar 2014 #9

that's actually a different issue gejohnston Mar 2014 #13

so it's not a gun issue, it's a bullet issue? CreekDog Mar 2014 #15

no, gejohnston Mar 2014 #16

Perhaps the doctors could justhanginon Mar 2014 #22

which means? gejohnston Mar 2014 #24

are you saying the patient should infer where the bullet has come from? CreekDog Mar 2014 #26

Gun safety is about not getting shot. Straw Man Mar 2014 #25

so you're saying if someone gets shot by a gun, they shouldn't go to the hospital CreekDog Mar 2014 #45

Reading comprehension fail blueridge3210 Mar 2014 #57

Don't be ridiculous. And pay close attention to the word order. Straw Man Mar 2014 #59

No, it's that once someone is shot, the gun safety aspects become irrelevant. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #71

speaking of your background, I'd like to ask whether you're a liberal or conservative CreekDog Mar 2014 #72

in a nutshell gejohnston Mar 2014 #74

you said you take each issue on its merits, but you don't actually post on other issues CreekDog Mar 2014 #76

you obviously didn't read the link gejohnston Mar 2014 #79

you just never have anything to add on any issue but guns CreekDog Mar 2014 #85

actually I do, gejohnston Mar 2014 #86

I'm just trying to understand you, you're saying that you're liberal and you post liberal things CreekDog Mar 2014 #89

actually, I am busy gejohnston Mar 2014 #90

post script gejohnston Mar 2014 #80

Aaaand there it is. SQUEE Mar 2014 #75

They're merely the latest self-appointed zampolit/witchfinder/inquisitor... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #118

Give out gun safety info to every parent HockeyMom Mar 2014 #31

I agree with you 100%. Straw Man Mar 2014 #40

Ya'll are so cute when you think you have a plan. SQUEE Mar 2014 #33

who is "you all"? CreekDog Mar 2014 #43

Dunno, maybe we can have a push poll.. SQUEE Mar 2014 #48

I realize that you're deeply offended when you're asked on DU what your political position is CreekDog Mar 2014 #56

Not offended, not even a little. SQUEE Mar 2014 #69

"Are you, or have you ever been, a communist". N/T beevul Mar 2014 #37

is a lame attempt to compare asking your opinion with McCarthyism CreekDog Mar 2014 #38

Yeah right. beevul Mar 2014 #62

Remember, they *have* to post here- the other group gets far less traffic friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #64

Meh...that group is nothing more than... beevul Mar 2014 #65

Odd you should bring up McCarthy, SQUEE Mar 2014 #91

and like McCarthy, I have ruined lives how? CreekDog Mar 2014 #96

Now you're only arguing about the degree... beevul Mar 2014 #97

I'll gladly stipulate that Creek Dog is no Joe McCarthy,... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #120

And I can't picture Creek Dog being a gejohnston Mar 2014 #129

it's interesting that of all the votes to support gag laws CreekDog Mar 2014 #42

I hope I don't sound like some Libertarian Party moonbat, but... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #44

What I oppose is a Government mandate that Doctors report the content of those conversations SkatmanRoth Mar 2014 #46

. CreekDog Mar 2014 #47

As I expected, SQUEE Mar 2014 #49

Lying to your doctor is always a great plan. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #53

I don't think there should be any law barring doctors from asking about lifestyle, uncommonlink Mar 2014 #50

All this bullshit is about Obama's nominee for Surgeon General meanit Mar 2014 #54

Just an obsession with RKBA -- OP's favorite group. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #55

yes it is Duckhunter935 Mar 2014 #60

i got "schooled" in what? CreekDog Mar 2014 #78

looks like you got "schooled" in the thread below but you ran off CreekDog Mar 2014 #124

That sounds familiar. clffrdjk Mar 2014 #160

I'm a pediatric nurse practitioner... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #61

Its not paranoid if Token Republican Mar 2014 #141

Weird, I can't imagine my Dr. cares if I own one (nt) Inkfreak Mar 2014 #68

Just say No DustyJoe Mar 2014 #77

I can't imagine how the need to wear eye and ear protection when shooting would even come up Jgarrick Mar 2014 #81

I often discuss firearms and target shooting with my doctors and dentists. ... spin Mar 2014 #88

If they can ban this subject, they can ban abortion discussion by the same mechanism. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #93

excellent point Token Republican Mar 2014 #94

It's one of my case examples of Republican hypocrisy. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #95

Soulcrushing AtheistCrusader Token Republican Mar 2014 #99

No laws are required. beevul Mar 2014 #98

if I want firearm Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #102

Firearm experts are of little use AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #147

In the interest of the 1A, yes. There are numerous... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #104

4 people here CreekDog Mar 2014 #106

The Florida law... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #107

4 people here CreekDog Mar 2014 #134

Your OP... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #139

two of those answering that way have zero posts CreekDog Mar 2014 #143

Puzzling but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #151

what you want is not in keeping with the rules CreekDog Mar 2014 #152

How about this discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #153

no, how about you acknowledge the rules and stop trying to negotiate new ones? CreekDog Mar 2014 #155

Why don't you uphold the rules? oneshooter Mar 2014 #157

Maybe the gander... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #159

Thats going to leave a mark. N/T beevul Mar 2014 #161

Have a nice night discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #158

The AMA should oppose doctors who deny services to patients who don't want to talk about guns aikoaiko Mar 2014 #123

can you name one instance where that has happened? CreekDog Mar 2014 #125

Dr. Okonkwo in Ocala, FL aikoaiko Mar 2014 #126

You've asked that twice before, and were answered both times friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #127

Why? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #146

wife went to the clinic and was asked this and told them littlewolf Mar 2014 #131

So, whose job should it have been to talk to the parents of this dead 2 year old? 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #154

I see what you are saying gejohnston Mar 2014 #156