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Bernardo de La Paz

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21. That is higher than necessary. Recommended up to 2 g/kg for older people
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 09:37 AM
Jun 18
You have some basis, in that issues around high protein diets are not clear. Kidney disease is not the only potential issue. Bone density loss is another. But on both of those, it is not clear if there are issues.

I would add that high protein can crowd out other nutrients from lower consumption of fruit and vegetable, such as fibre and anti-oxidants.

Muscle strength is not the only issue contributing to falls. Also important are inner ear balance issues, cognitive issues, and vision. Reasonable exercise (higher than average) helps everything.

Several studies have concluded that active people and athletes may require elevated protein intake (compared to 0.8 g/kg) due to increase in muscle mass and sweat losses, as well as need for body repair and energy source.[41][42] Indeed, it has been shown that protein contribute around 3% of the total energy expenditure during exercise.[47] Suggested amounts vary from 1.2 to 1.4 g/kg for those doing endurance exercise to as much as 1.6-1.8 g/kg for strength exercise[42][44] and up to 2.0 g/kg/day for older people,[48] while a proposed maximum daily protein intake would be approximately 25% of energy requirements i.e. approximately 2 to 2.5 g/kg.[41] However, many questions still remain to be resolved.[42]

In addition, some have suggested that athletes using restricted-calorie diets for weight loss should further increase their protein consumption, possibly to 1.8–2.0 g/kg, in order to avoid loss of lean muscle mass.[49]


There is little consensus on the potentially detrimental effects to healthy individuals of a long-term high protein diet, leading to caution advisories about using high protein intake as a form of weight loss.[60][54][61]

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Unfortunately, at a certain age, when you fall, you can break a hip. no_hypocrisy Jun 18 #1
I'm 76 and I've become a shuffler. Aussie105 Jun 18 #9
I read that often, the hip breaks and causes the fall, not the other way around. I've read up some about this LiberalLoner Jun 18 #15
After one of his surgeries, my dad's doctor *recommended* he shuffle his feet. summer_in_TX Jun 19 #25
There are intentional falls? rzemanfl Jun 18 #2
Not self-harm. Bungee jumping, parachute jumping, diving boards, stage diving, . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #6
Well, I am seventy-seven and know nobody in my age cohort who does rzemanfl Jun 18 #10
I would add semi-controlled falls: "falling into bed", falling onto the couch, falling asleep, falling in love Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #22
Too bad the AP couldn't have used "accidental". sinkingfeeling Jun 18 #19
I agree and award you the thread rzemanfl Jun 18 #20
Too bad this hasn't happened to a certain someone. Ferrets are Cool Jun 18 #3
I've never actually heard of that happening to a man...I think osteoporosis is more of a problem for post menopausal women LiberalLoner Jun 18 #16
Easiest way to prevent this (at any age) purple_haze Jun 18 #4
Weight training and proper protein diet. High-protein can lead to kidney trouble, I think Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #8
The high protein thing purple_haze Jun 18 #13
That is higher than necessary. Recommended up to 2 g/kg for older people Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #21
In Russia a number of people are killed by falling out of windows. NNadir Jun 18 #5
"The CDC researchers did not try to answer why death rates from falls are increasing." OldBaldy1701E Jun 18 #7
You nailed it, Baldy! SAIL is an evidence based strength, balance & fitness prog for seniors SheltieLover Jun 19 #28
Part of the problem is that they don't want us to find resources. OldBaldy1701E Jun 19 #29
Of.course they want us gone. Here is another one: Tap Time (seated for seniors) SheltieLover Jun 19 #30
I will have to check. Our move put is close to the main branch here. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jun 19 #31
Main branch of what? SheltieLover Jun 19 #32
The county library. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jun 19 #33
Oh good! SheltieLover Jun 19 #34
I go out of my way not to fall. ananda Jun 18 #11
Tai Chi and Qi Gong can really help with stability and balance. Pinback Jun 18 #12
Before I retired, one of the things I did Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 18 #14
Staying active and exercising so important wolfie001 Jun 18 #18
Seniors are taking many prescriptions these days Diamond_Dog Jun 18 #17
That is a reasonable explanation. It does seem to me... NNadir Jun 18 #23
No one has mentioned the preemptory use of a cane or walking pole. No Vested Interest Jun 18 #24
My family bought me an Apple Watch, partly for the fall detection and alerting. Got cellular model. usonian Jun 19 #26
No mention that during those mwmisses4289 Jun 19 #27
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