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NNadir

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9. We've had lots of prototypes of lots of devices. We had prototypes for wind turbines in...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:47 AM
Jun 2022

...the 16th century.

How's that working out?

Here's how:


June 09: 421.33 ppm
June 08: 421.40 ppm
June 07: 421.42 ppm
June 06: 421.54 ppm
June 05: Unavailable
Last Updated: June 10, 2022


Recent Daily Average Mauna Loa CO2

Nuclear energy operates continuously and does not require flowing water. Historically they were devices for generating electricity, but they need not be, as I have pointed out in many posts, most recently this one: The Energy Required to Supply California's Water with Zero Discharge Supercritical Desalination. The point is made, that the devices proposed therein would supply multiple forms of energy, not just the thermodynamically degraded form of energy that everyone seems to think is magically benign, electricity.

The idea of storing a thermodynamically degraded form of energy, electricity, as chemical energy (hydrogen, batteries, blah, blah, blah) is thermodynamically, environmentally and ultimately economically insipid. The material requirements are obscene.

The wind and solar industry - the poster boys and girls for this disastrous scheme of so called "renewable energy" - have operated in an environment of extreme enthusiasm, misrepresentation and outright lying while the nuclear industry has operated in a public environment, driven by uneducated journalists, of hostility and contempt. For decades upon decades we've heard the lie, among many, that wind and solar are quick to build and nuclear takes "too long" to build. Yet, after half a century of this rather oblivious rhetoric, the expenditure of trillions of dollars on solar and wind, nuclear energy produces about 30 exajoules of energy every year - as it has done since the 1990s - and solar and wind, a little over ten.

Returning to so called "renewable energy" in all the expensive Rube Goldberg permutations has failed. People are literally dying in the streets around the world from excessive heat.

Unlimited energy?

Get serious. Again, people are dying from extreme heat, right now. Now. We don't have time for these fantasies.
We're out of it, out of time. We need to save what can be saved with stuff that works, on scale.

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A current to current converter Yonnie3 Jun 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author wyn borkins Jun 2022 #2
Wind, waves, and sun-- viva la Jun 2022 #3
Sun and wind can help, but they're intermittent Warpy Jun 2022 #4
Jellyfish in the intake! viva la Jun 2022 #10
No, you just have to dust the panels off after a windstorm Warpy Jun 2022 #11
Speaking of ocean power.... viva la Jun 2022 #17
They're working on it Warpy Jun 2022 #19
Within a few hundred miles of the ocean and at lower elevations... hunter Jun 2022 #21
I'm from a Great Lakes state viva la Jun 2022 #23
You're right. For centuriesupon centuries, humanity lived on the sun, the wind, flowing water... NNadir Jun 2022 #7
As the article stated, a prototype has worked well in the field for three yeats Warpy Jun 2022 #8
We've had lots of prototypes of lots of devices. We had prototypes for wind turbines in... NNadir Jun 2022 #9
Those old windmills were once state of the art Warpy Jun 2022 #12
I fail to see the difference between "still be squatting in the mud..." and... NNadir Jun 2022 #13
A lot of resources are being spent on this project... Finishline42 Jun 2022 #14
Oh Geeze... The money being spent will save very few lives, because very few lives are at risk. NNadir Jun 2022 #15
Hey I think another wind farm came online Finishline42 Jun 2022 #16
Hey, I think about 7,850,000 tons of carbon dioxide were dumped and 1600 people died from air... NNadir Jun 2022 #18
How many nuclear plants could have been built Finishline42 Jun 2022 #20
For the record... NNadir Jun 2022 #22
I always thought using the tidal changes in the Bay of Fundy could be a useful supply of electricity mitch96 Jun 2022 #5
Tidal bores look powerful, butthey're intermittent Warpy Jun 2022 #6
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