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relogic

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33. A thought experiment

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2026, 12:02 PM

16 hrs ago

Take out the wording (bombs, bombing) substitute on the shirt advocacy for extreme, general due diligence in US warfare or remembrance of innocents killed in recent campaigns (wars of choice).
For example: on the shirt:
“We’re not collateral damage”. Victims of Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School in Minab

I suspect the offense is not the particular word used on that shirt. It’s more likely the airline doesn’t want legal headaches from this regime because they allowed tolerance for criticism against this and all other bombing campaigns.

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N.J. man says he was almost kicked off plane after flight attendant found shirt offensive [View all] mahatmakanejeeves 17 hrs ago OP

Did his darker skin (visible in picture) RockCreek 17 hrs ago #1

Hmmmm - let's guess. 3catwoman3 17 hrs ago #3

Or three guesses, first two don't count....🤔 littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #6

I'm not offended. badhair77 17 hrs ago #2

"How dare you prick my conscience... AloeVera 17 hrs ago #4

Who supported bombing kids? yardwork 17 hrs ago #12

The person "offended". AloeVera 16 hrs ago #18

???? yardwork 16 hrs ago #19

You are somehow conflating two very distinct policies. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #30

There must be a more detailed article that is being referenced here. yardwork 16 hrs ago #31

Since you believe a policy against offensive attire and one on endangering public safety are one and the same... AloeVera 16 hrs ago #45

I appreciate your research into this. yardwork 16 hrs ago #46

I appreciate your research into this. yardwork 16 hrs ago #47

Lack of research is not the problem here. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #51

It's not a question of enforcing a long-standing policy SpankMe 16 hrs ago #39

We all know what the shirt refers to TBF 14 hrs ago #68

Airlines treat flying as a privilege, not a right. yardwork 14 hrs ago #69

lol - yes all of that is factual TBF 13 hrs ago #70

I'm certainly not defending it. yardwork 13 hrs ago #71

Wearing a shirt is not defacing property - TBF 12 hrs ago #73

What the heck United? One of your flight attendants found that offensive? Biophilic 17 hrs ago #5

Welcome to the United States of Authoritarianism. littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #8

Here's what I would have told the personnel he spoke with BaronChocula 15 hrs ago #64

Any reference to bombing or bombs gets anyone kicked off planes, yardwork 17 hrs ago #7

My thought exactly. And good morning. NT mahatmakanejeeves 17 hrs ago #9

Good morning! yardwork 17 hrs ago #10

Maybe she should have explained that policy whathehell 16 hrs ago #16

Sounds like she did. yardwork 16 hrs ago #17

As the passenger said, whathehell 16 hrs ago #41

According to the article, that's exactly what happened. yardwork 16 hrs ago #42

"joked about a bomb" ... VERY DAMNED DIFFERENT. Again CONTEXT matters. hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #50

I read your report of the article whathehell 15 hrs ago #52

You might be responding to the wrong post? yardwork 15 hrs ago #54

You are correct whathehell 15 hrs ago #58

No worries at all. yardwork 15 hrs ago #61

Good.. whathehell 15 hrs ago #66

You are correct whathehell 15 hrs ago #59

Again context matters for use of the word "bomb" hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #49

Exactly.. whathehell 15 hrs ago #56

Nice stretch there. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #20

Context matters, yardwork. That is an incredible stretch. I like his lawyer's odds on this one. hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #24

Really. yardwork 16 hrs ago #27

Uggh huh. Threatening to remove him if he did not remove his shirt is a viable "harm" especially hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #36

yeah- R0ckyRac00n 15 hrs ago #55

Thanks for confirming what I suspected. ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #67

The First Amendment is not relevant Cirsium 8 hrs ago #83

THANK YOU Skittles 9 hrs ago #81

It will be settled out of court. The Wizard 17 hrs ago #11

Did he miss the flight? yardwork 16 hrs ago #15

So their policy is if anyone of their staff is offended by your shirt, intheflow 16 hrs ago #34

You don't say the word "BOMB" in an airport or on a jet... nor should you make references to them. QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #13

His subsequent actions tend to support that conclusion. yardwork 16 hrs ago #14

Really...? displacedvermoter 16 hrs ago #23

You. Don't. Say. BOMB. In. An. Airport. 💣️✈️ QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #26

Ok displacedvermoter 16 hrs ago #29

He didn't say it. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #38

Blaming the flight attendant personally ignores the reality of the airline industry and how corporate liability works. QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #72

The airline itself characterized it as a dress code violation, not a safety violation. AloeVera 12 hrs ago #74

Passengers must obey flight crew instructions. He did. Then whined about it. End of story. QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #75

So, using your own words, someone made a "subjective judgement" AloeVera 10 hrs ago #78

As a legitimate backup to the threatening word of bomb. Yes. When it comes to flight crew the rule is simple.... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #79

I want that shirt to wear to protests, Bayard 16 hrs ago #21

This is the ridiculous side of those who want to make everything antisemitic and there are those hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #22

Who said this incident is antisemitic? yardwork 16 hrs ago #28

I listed this as but one of several possibilities. Again, jumping to conclusions is problematic hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #32

What similar incidents? yardwork 16 hrs ago #35

If she found that offensive then she must find 'Bombing kids is self defense' acceptable ToxMarz 16 hrs ago #25

Exactly! If his flight partner had a t-shirt with your slogan, which one would get kicked off? TheRickles 11 hrs ago #77

A thought experiment relogic 16 hrs ago #33

I find that to be extraordinarily unlikely. yardwork 16 hrs ago #37

Please be specific relogic 16 hrs ago #40

Your last sentence. yardwork 16 hrs ago #43

So, then relogic 15 hrs ago #53

Sure, the Trump administration is nuts and authoritarian. yardwork 15 hrs ago #60

You underestimate relogic 8 hrs ago #85

or maybe Skittles 8 hrs ago #84

Hell, I want one! no_hypocrisy 16 hrs ago #44

Just don't try to wear it on a plane! yardwork 16 hrs ago #48

In related news Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #57

He'll win Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #62

He didn't mention any names. Why would one be upset?. twodogsbarking 15 hrs ago #63

Me feelwings were hurt. I've seen shirts on planes WAY more "Hot Words" chouchou 15 hrs ago #65

Irony... Both sides of the conflict could use the same meme/slogan on their propaganda. OC375 11 hrs ago #76

Would an idiot donning mAga attire get treated the same? BHDem53 10 hrs ago #80

Not likely... displacedvermoter 9 hrs ago #82

In solidarity.... Dethhogan 7 hrs ago #86

Selective reading by a not too bright airline person. Aussie105 6 hrs ago #87

I'm offended by that United flight attendant RainCaster 5 hrs ago #88

Will United make the MAGAt change their shirt? Or take off their red hat? maspaha 5 hrs ago #89

Gonna go out on a limb here and say air travel is not the place to fly your position flags high LearnedHand 4 hrs ago #90