Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Metaphorical

(2,662 posts)
36. We are in extraconstitutional territory
Tue May 12, 2026, 07:59 PM
May 12

The 25th Amendment was created primarily to deal with secession in the wake of a President resigning from office, with the 25-4 there primarily for situations where the President was physically unable to hold the office (for instance, due to cancer or a heart attack). In all honesty, Biden probably should have voluntarily resigned and let Kamala Harris become president under the 25th Amendment when he was diagnosed with cancer. As an amendment for dealing with the current situation, it's worthless - it's easier to impeach Trump and remove him from office.

Now, I think what the GOP is hoping is that, if they end up losing control over Congress (not a foregone conclusion but possible) that the Dems will impeach him and enough GOP will vote with them to put him away for good. Vance and Rubio become POTUS and VPOTUS, and the bodies get buried before they lose the presidency in 2028.

I also think that there's a certain amount of wishful thinking among the GOP regulars that Trump keels over on the golf course near Mara Logo. This would be the best case scenario for them - kind of like with Reagan, a dead Trump can always be turned into a MAGA martyr.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

What is the chance that they have the votes to get the VP seated exboyfil May 12 #1
do not confirm a vice president rampartd May 12 #5
The 25th Amendment requires the majority of the Cabinet, plus the VP and Secretary of State FakeNoose May 12 #6
Wishful thinking, ain't gonna happen imo... wcmagumba May 12 #2
Not enough cojones in the bunch Bobstandard May 12 #22
I could see it happening. sop May 12 #3
not ousting him fractures the nation and the world. rampartd May 12 #8
What would he do? What could he do? johnnyfins May 12 #9
Trump would refuse to leave and order the FBI and military to arrest Vance and Rubio for treason. Irish_Dem May 12 #15
Trump would refuse to leave and order the FBI and military to arrest Vance and Rubio for treason. Irish_Dem May 12 #16
Living in some alt universe of self-importance bucolic_frolic May 12 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta May 12 #7
They need Trump. Have to blame him for the country crashing and burning. Raven123 May 12 #10
More likely is that he has a medical crisis that results in his death. mwmisses4289 May 12 #11
Vance's Plan B. Irish_Dem May 12 #14
All those people that paid for pardons promised... Cheezoholic May 12 #28
Sarcasm enid602 May 12 #12
Very risky. 50% chance within 24 hours Vance and Rubio will fall out of windows. Irish_Dem May 12 #13
No I think they'd make sure they have the right/RIGHT people backing them FakeNoose May 12 #31
Who can stand up to ICE and the US military? Irish_Dem May 12 #33
I think if they offered Trump a huge payout he might consider leaving? Irish_Dem May 12 #17
Tell him he can live in the big, beautiful ballroom. dem4decades May 12 #18
All the free cocaine and hookers he wants. Irish_Dem May 12 #29
Can the nation afford to pay for all the hookers Trump wants? dem4decades May 12 #34
We can if the hookers accidentally cause a heart attack in a certain client. Irish_Dem May 12 #37
A significant piece that may get lost in the larger article: Wiz Imp May 12 #19
We've been let down too many times. Endlessmike56 May 12 #20
Deadline Legal Blog-How the 25th Amendment would work against Trump .... LetMyPeopleVote May 12 #21
You're correct they must have Vance or it won't work FakeNoose May 12 #32
Does Trump Read Robert Reich ?? RustyWheels May 12 #23
Such a delicious thought! PuraVidaDreamin May 12 #26
Boys and Girls, PLEASE Read Section 4 of the 25th Amendment! PBC_Democrat May 12 #24
Krasnov will be sitting at his faux Resolute Desk at Merde-A-Gogo... ultralite001 May 12 #25
I will believe it, bluescribbler May 12 #27
Not going to happen D00ver66 May 12 #30
I'm just hoping he'll die. JustKay May 12 #35
We are in extraconstitutional territory Metaphorical May 12 #36
I understand your point that the path is clear for impeachment and removal FakeNoose May 12 #38
Latest Discussions»Editorials & Other Articles»Robert Reich: What I Just...»Reply #36