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21. Deadline Legal Blog-How the 25th Amendment would work against Trump ....
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:13 PM
May 12

If the 25th Amendment is invoked (this is not likely), trump remains POTUS and Vance would only be acting President. Vance would have no ability to designate a new VP. Further like in the impeachment process, the Republican-controlled Congress has a role to play.

https://www.ms.now/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/how-25th-amendment-would-work-trump-iran

Whatever the likelihood of such a move, you might wonder: How would that constitutional process play out?

Section 4 of the amendment gives the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet (or another body designated by Congress) the power to declare that the president “is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” If such a declaration is made here, then Vice President JD Vance would, as the amendment says, “immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”

But that would not end the matter. Section 4, which has never been invoked, goes on to give the president the power to then tell Congress that he’s able to serve. In that case, he regains the office unless the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet (or another body designated by Congress) say he’s unable to serve. If that happens, then it’s up to Congress to decide, with the amendment requiring a two-thirds vote in both chambers, that the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” If Congress makes that determination, the vice president continues acting as president; otherwise, the president resumes serving.

So, although the initial action can come from the White House, Congress ultimately has a role to play, and Republicans control both chambers. ....

Therefore, like the 25th Amendment, impeachment leaves the fate of the country to a Republican party and congressional majority that has been subservient to this president.

trump will NOT be removed under the 25th Amendment. Vance and the cabinet will not remove trump and if they did there is no way that two-thirds of both the Senate and House would support this if trump challenges this removal.

There may some political benefit in trying to shame Vance and the cabinet into invoking the 25th Amendment but I believe that Vance and the assholes in trump's cabinet are immune to shame

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What is the chance that they have the votes to get the VP seated exboyfil May 12 #1
do not confirm a vice president rampartd May 12 #5
The 25th Amendment requires the majority of the Cabinet, plus the VP and Secretary of State FakeNoose May 12 #6
Wishful thinking, ain't gonna happen imo... wcmagumba May 12 #2
Not enough cojones in the bunch Bobstandard May 12 #22
I could see it happening. sop May 12 #3
not ousting him fractures the nation and the world. rampartd May 12 #8
What would he do? What could he do? johnnyfins May 12 #9
Trump would refuse to leave and order the FBI and military to arrest Vance and Rubio for treason. Irish_Dem May 12 #15
Trump would refuse to leave and order the FBI and military to arrest Vance and Rubio for treason. Irish_Dem May 12 #16
Living in some alt universe of self-importance bucolic_frolic May 12 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta May 12 #7
They need Trump. Have to blame him for the country crashing and burning. Raven123 May 12 #10
More likely is that he has a medical crisis that results in his death. mwmisses4289 May 12 #11
Vance's Plan B. Irish_Dem May 12 #14
All those people that paid for pardons promised... Cheezoholic May 12 #28
Sarcasm enid602 May 12 #12
Very risky. 50% chance within 24 hours Vance and Rubio will fall out of windows. Irish_Dem May 12 #13
No I think they'd make sure they have the right/RIGHT people backing them FakeNoose May 12 #31
Who can stand up to ICE and the US military? Irish_Dem May 12 #33
I think if they offered Trump a huge payout he might consider leaving? Irish_Dem May 12 #17
Tell him he can live in the big, beautiful ballroom. dem4decades May 12 #18
All the free cocaine and hookers he wants. Irish_Dem May 12 #29
Can the nation afford to pay for all the hookers Trump wants? dem4decades May 12 #34
We can if the hookers accidentally cause a heart attack in a certain client. Irish_Dem May 12 #37
A significant piece that may get lost in the larger article: Wiz Imp May 12 #19
We've been let down too many times. Endlessmike56 May 12 #20
Deadline Legal Blog-How the 25th Amendment would work against Trump .... LetMyPeopleVote May 12 #21
You're correct they must have Vance or it won't work FakeNoose May 12 #32
Does Trump Read Robert Reich ?? RustyWheels May 12 #23
Such a delicious thought! PuraVidaDreamin May 12 #26
Boys and Girls, PLEASE Read Section 4 of the 25th Amendment! PBC_Democrat May 12 #24
Krasnov will be sitting at his faux Resolute Desk at Merde-A-Gogo... ultralite001 May 12 #25
I will believe it, bluescribbler May 12 #27
Not going to happen D00ver66 May 12 #30
I'm just hoping he'll die. JustKay May 12 #35
We are in extraconstitutional territory Metaphorical May 12 #36
I understand your point that the path is clear for impeachment and removal FakeNoose May 12 #38
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