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BainsBane

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21. It's about the future of the party

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 08:48 PM

Apr 2017

and how he is trying to lead it away from some core values that many of us consider indespensible. Events over the past week are not the primary, and claiming they are is disengenous.

If those concerns are truly news to you, you've managed to ignore the events often past week and the voices of a whlole lot of women and people of color. It would seem the problem is tha you've decided that Anyone who disagrees with you is full of bullshit.

The problem is not his advocating for economic changes. It's his position that equal rights aren't important to economic justice. The effect of that is greater inequality. I believe the author makes that very point. Yet you refused to read it. No wonder so much is news to you.

The events of last week are summarized here. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028973902

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Bye bye, Bernie: He's not fit to captain the Democratic ship if he can't stop chasing the great... [View all] DonViejo Apr 2017 OP

Oh for fuck sake... Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #1

I agree SCantiGOP Apr 2017 #23

Yep, to the trash! gtar100 Apr 2017 #34

Exactly. TDale313 Apr 2017 #33

Yup. Give it a rest. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #39

I would argue they hurt. I would say more, but I kind of fear the other 50% of joet67 Apr 2017 #73

It never ends. Nt Mojorabbit Apr 2017 #97

BS has never been a Dem and never will be. stopbush Apr 2017 #2

You don't say? ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #96

A thoughtful and well-reasoned essay. Thank you for sharing this, DonViejo. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #3

When a "friend" is "perpetuating the dangerous myth that the Democrats have ignored them"... SunSeeker Apr 2017 #59

Thanks NJ and I agree. LOL Lib Apr 2017 #70

Don. JudyM Apr 2017 #4

Yes? DonViejo Apr 2017 #5

Maybe a bit of gasoline? JudyM Apr 2017 #8

I don't think so but, thanks!... DonViejo Apr 2017 #12

why is du still fighting the primary? Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #6

What does that article have to do with the primaries? George II Apr 2017 #9

It's the same smears used against him in the primaries. dgauss Apr 2017 #15

That essay is an expression of one's opinion. What in it is a "smear"? George II Apr 2017 #18

New definition of "smear"... lapucelle Apr 2017 #40

It's about the future of the party BainsBane Apr 2017 #21

Bernie Sanders is not your enemy. dgauss Apr 2017 #28

Bernie's a tough guy, he can handle a little criticism from people who emulatorloo Apr 2017 #35

I do think he can handle criticism, he's been around. dgauss Apr 2017 #57

Totally agree with you about him listening! emulatorloo Apr 2017 #58

Not "smears".. These are FACTS.. and the Light Cha Apr 2017 #22

Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #62

This Little Light of Mine.. Cha Apr 2017 #65

Absolutely Nothing to do with the primary.. this is the Cha Apr 2017 #10

This is about NOW, not the primary. The Democratic party is currently pnwmom Apr 2017 #24

Is Bernie asking the party to reject so called identity politics? nt retrowire Apr 2017 #27

Yes. "Sanders: Democrats must move beyond identity politics." pnwmom Apr 2017 #32

Wait. He said about women last Sunday? LisaM Apr 2017 #37

No, he said that last November. But he still thinks class is more important than anything else. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #38

Ah thanks. I was reading it on the bus. LisaM Apr 2017 #42

So Obama roughly has the same opinion retrowire Apr 2017 #43

Yeah, it was kind of a dumb thing to say. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #45

Agreed ! left-of-center2012 Apr 2017 #101

Interesting essay from Salon. Thanks. George II Apr 2017 #7

Thank you, Don! this has to be said! Cha Apr 2017 #11

someone had to say it. BainsBane Apr 2017 #13

"75 percent of working-class voters of color voted for Clinton, not Trump, last year." Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #14

Yup. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #25

His Senate seat is up for re-election in 2018 TNLib Apr 2017 #16

He already had his re-election committee set up (as an Independent) before last year's convention. George II Apr 2017 #19

Al Giordano has talked about running for it BainsBane Apr 2017 #20

He was all ready to when he found out he has cancer nini Apr 2017 #29

Link? lapucelle Apr 2017 #48

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It's true. lapucelle Cha Apr 2017 #66

Thank you Cha... lapucelle Apr 2017 #88

Thank you, lapucelle Cha Apr 2017 #90

He was serious.. Cha Apr 2017 #72

I'd like to see Dr. Dean run. N/T lapucelle Apr 2017 #46

I doubt that Dean would ever do this. BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #78

there will be no serious opposition to Sanders in that senate seat JI7 Apr 2017 #76

Good article 4now Apr 2017 #17

Divide and conquer. Congratulations. retrowire Apr 2017 #26

So we should be united under increased wealth for white men? BainsBane Apr 2017 #47

The candidate Our Revolution endorsed lapucelle Apr 2017 #50

All I know is that Bernie wears a white hood in your eyes. Nt retrowire Apr 2017 #83

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Lmao retrowire Apr 2017 #92

I didn't realize you were "walking" to somebody else. lapucelle Apr 2017 #105

Damn that's a good typo. Nt retrowire Apr 2017 #106

There's an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm lapucelle Apr 2017 #107

Is that message addressed lapucelle Apr 2017 #49

Huh tiptonic Apr 2017 #30

Bernie is right benpollard Apr 2017 #31

Sorry Sanders and HRC voted the same 93% of the time. Not much daylight between their records emulatorloo Apr 2017 #41

Good point! B Stieg Apr 2017 #51

I like Bernie a lot. I think he has a lot to offer. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #52

But...but... klook Apr 2017 #54

Agreed. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #56

I think you need to prove that. murielm99 Apr 2017 #68

No, BS is Wrong.. he's divisive and he's wrong. Cha Apr 2017 #71

Divide. Divide. Divide. hay rick Apr 2017 #36

Yeah, BS is suppose to be on The Unity Tour but all anyone Cha Apr 2017 #67

Complete and udder kcdoug1 Apr 2017 #44

Bulls don't have udders. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #53

Yeah, quotes from BS. Cha Apr 2017 #75

So do you want to snip off your nose to spite your face? Heartstrings Apr 2017 #55

Bernie is not the face of resistance Kaye_NY Apr 2017 #77

This!!!! BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #79

Where in my comment do I say he's the leader Heartstrings Apr 2017 #94

You said, Kaye_NY Apr 2017 #99

So the most popular politician currently Heartstrings Apr 2017 #104

The resistance has been majority women- every protest, 85% of calls to congress, bettyellen Apr 2017 #108

The Democratic Party really is a big tent. Better we discuss these issues now. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #60

Fucking hell. Duppers Apr 2017 #61

Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I'm tired of this shit. CaptainTruth Apr 2017 #63

Yes! Heartstrings Apr 2017 #95

Why Bernie promotes the ideas the democratic party should be espousing mdohoney Apr 2017 #69

Please Proceed, Sanders.. Cha Apr 2017 #74

IOW, women's reproductive rights BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #80

At least it's very much out in the open now.. Cha Apr 2017 #84

So do are we supposed to vote for the D or else, or not? alarimer Apr 2017 #103

It is the fact BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #111

No, it's fucking hypocritical on the part of SOME here alarimer Apr 2017 #112

You have your BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #115

In a red state women's reproductive rights may not count as much, BUT I'd rather have. DEMOCRAT inst secondwind Apr 2017 #81

Tim Kaine is anti-abortion. Sienna86 Apr 2017 #82

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Sanders once killed a man in Reno, just to watch him die ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #86

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This should be hide worthy zipplewrath Apr 2017 #91

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.... disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #100

Important to read!! JudyM Apr 2017 #109

Women's reproductive rights are human rights Kaye_NY Apr 2017 #113

Welcome to DU.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #114

Sanders has a 100% rating from NARAL alarimer Apr 2017 #102

if social issues and economic are indivisible, why do centrist Democrats follow GOP lead on economy yurbud Apr 2017 #116