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BradBlog

(2,938 posts)
60. Because you can afford one....
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 03:56 PM
Mar 2012

"I thought chicago had a documented problem with nonliving voters.(google seems to imply that)"

You thought wrong. Where there may have been such problems years ago, it did not take place at the polling place, by and large, it would take place via absentee ballots. Polling place Photo ID does nothing to prevent that. The ONLY type of voter fraud potentially deterred by such restrictions is in-person polling place impersonation, which is INCREDIBLY rare. In the meantime, tens if not hundreds of thousands of voters stand to lose their right to cast their legal ballot at all if such restrictions are put in place.

"So if they made getting a state id card free (costs about 10-2 bucks here in ohio) would it be better for you?"

In 1967, the Supreme Court ruled that a $1.50 poll tax was unconstitional. So what's your point again?

"I still dont see the problem with having to prove who you are to vote."

That already happens. By federal law. First time registrants who don't register in person must present an ID when voting at the polling place for the first time. Many other states have Voter ID laws which are no problem, because they are not draconian and meant to suppress the vote as polling place Photo ID restrictions are. Those states allow for dozens of different types of IDs to identify voters.

For example, in SC, which already had one of the most restrictive voter ID laws in the nation, they had required a state-issued drivers license, a state-issued DMV ID card or a voter registration card. Their NEW Photo ID law removed the voter registration card as a form of possible ID, despite, by SC's own statistics, the DoJ found that registered minority voters were 20% more likely to lack such ID than white voters. The law was, thankfully, rejected by the DoJ under the Voting Rights Act (though the state is appealing that decision anyway...because they want to disenfranchise voters. They do not have any examples of voter fraud in the state that would be deterred by Photo ID restrictions which wouldn't already be deterred by existing laws.)

"If all I need is a bill, and a voters id card I could go vote for all the males in my family who dont bother to do it themselves."

Try it! See how that works for ya. You MIGHT be able to cast a single vote for someone else. If you're lucky. It won't affect an election, but go for it! You're only risking about 5 years in jail and $10,000 fine. Have fun!

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Now you see what these laws are supposed to do sakabatou Mar 2012 #1
Actually they are designed to PREVENT people from voting... rfranklin Mar 2012 #2
Never doubted it. aquart Mar 2012 #3
Brilliant to plan and document this! polichick Mar 2012 #4
God bless that man! xtraxritical Mar 2012 #6
Still true to his oath to protect the nation for enemies both without and within. I am proud of him. jwirr Mar 2012 #8
ouch deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #13
+100000000 :) n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #17
Ummm... Ditto. PavePusher Mar 2012 #23
You and me both CRK7376 Mar 2012 #73
that's cuz they have rush rammed down their throats. mopinko Mar 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PavePusher Mar 2012 #24
Get to know an anti-war Marine. Betsy Ross Mar 2012 #21
There are more than a few of us former military SnowCritter Mar 2012 #29
Bleeding Heart BeGoodDoGood Mar 2012 #41
Well, I never thought I would say it, here goes... "Thank you for your service". xtraxritical Mar 2012 #65
Me, too! Aristus Mar 2012 #74
this is beautiful. rurallib Mar 2012 #5
Righteous rant by Lance Corporal Thompson. That poll worker had FailureToCommunicate Mar 2012 #7
The video Gruntled Old Man Mar 2012 #9
What an asshole. BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #26
Yeah, how dare he fight for our right to vote! BradBlog Mar 2012 #30
I think he should do this at 10-15 polling places. boppers Mar 2012 #36
Yep, they have nothing to do with it dropkickpa Mar 2012 #39
Voting, however, is. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #44
And because his snit was more important than his vote BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #52
His "snit" is important to a lot of people, including the ACLU and the CCR. EFerrari Mar 2012 #53
yes, he should shut up and listen to his betters... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #56
I imagine it's rather easy to confuse "snit" and "right to vote" LanternWaste Mar 2012 #70
He's making a point, not being an asshole. n/t crim son Mar 2012 #66
Having a point does not immunize your conduct. BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #67
Yep, and that bitch Rosa Parks should have just moved to the back of the bus NickB79 Mar 2012 #72
I appreciate that you're still fighing for your country, big guy! nt SunSeeker Mar 2012 #10
Here is how it went when I voted today in Ohio liberal N proud Mar 2012 #11
If they asked you to spell your name and address, they went too far Maeve Mar 2012 #42
The spelling was probably a throw-back to the days when they couldn't find your name in the book liberal N proud Mar 2012 #43
Have the right-wing hacks started to attack this guy yet? Hugabear Mar 2012 #12
Thank you Tim Thompson Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #15
Tim Thompson--Still serving his country honorably! southerncrone Mar 2012 #16
K & R n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #18
Semper Fi chrisa Mar 2012 #19
ALSO: 86-Year-Old Ohio Veteran Can’t Vote After Government-Issued ID Is Rejected At Poll Tx4obama Mar 2012 #20
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) fhrtjtr Mar 2012 #22
I agree with the Marine ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #25
There Is More That Can Be Done DallasNE Mar 2012 #27
Sadly, all I see here is the result, a WIN for GOP voter suppression. freshwest Mar 2012 #28
I dont get it. ben- Mar 2012 #31
IDs aren't free. jeff47 Mar 2012 #32
State id's arent that expensive. ben- Mar 2012 #46
You are forgetting to add in the price of getting to the DMV jeff47 Mar 2012 #49
Because you can afford one.... BradBlog Mar 2012 #60
The man's voter registration card proved who he was. Demit Mar 2012 #35
If he dropped his card on the way in SATIRical Mar 2012 #45
If I make a fake driver's license with your name and address and my picture jeff47 Mar 2012 #50
Do you have the means SATIRical Mar 2012 #51
Yes. It's called the Internet. jeff47 Mar 2012 #55
Don't forget SATIRical Mar 2012 #58
I need that information with or without a photo ID law jeff47 Mar 2012 #61
Yep. SATIRical Mar 2012 #62
It is more important, which is why it should not be restricted to people with money. jeff47 Mar 2012 #63
Do we have to drive people SATIRical Mar 2012 #64
I don't know who you are, Jeff47, but... BradBlog Mar 2012 #68
Just FYI... BradBlog Mar 2012 #69
And it adds one additional step to prevent voting. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #71
That's a ridiculous scenario. Do you vote very often? Can you picture that happening in your polling Demit Mar 2012 #57
$15 in Texas TexasProgresive Mar 2012 #37
I think you do BradBlog Mar 2012 #59
Where's AG Eric Holder? KeepItReal Mar 2012 #33
Exactly ObaMania Mar 2012 #34
Step One: Stop calling them Voter ID laws & call them what they are - Vote Supression Laws. baldguy Mar 2012 #38
That's right. Let's just say it out loud. n/t EFerrari Mar 2012 #54
I live in Clarksville, Tn. dotymed Mar 2012 #40
Bless Tim Thompson! sonias Mar 2012 #47
Looks like a US passport wouldn't be sufficient to prove id sgsmith Mar 2012 #48
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