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109. Tests to Show if Fugitive Died in California Cabin

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:54 PM

Feb 2013

By IAN LOVETT, JENNIFER MEDINA, MICHAEL WILSON, FERNANDA SANTOS and CHRISTINE HAUSER
Published: February 13, 2013

BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. — Investigators on Wednesday were examining the charred human remains found in a burned-out cabin here to determine whether they are those of Christopher J. Dorner, the former Los Angeles police officer sought in the region’s largest manhunt, who is believed to have been inside the cabin as it burned down around him after the authorities pinned him down inside.

The San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Office said that identification of the remains “will be attempted through forensic means” — although investigators say there is little doubt they belong to Mr. Dorner.

As the authorities continued efforts to identify the remains, Lt. Andrew Neiman of the Los Angeles Police Department said Wednesday that the police were focusing on their homicide investigation, sifting through “over a thousand” clues, and noting that the police “don’t just stop a murder case because we think the suspect is no longer with us.”

“We have a case to close,” Lieutenant Neiman said in a briefing with reporters ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/us/dorner-california-remains-police-shootout.html?_r=0

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AP source: Dorner's license found in burned cabin [View all] onehandle Feb 2013 OP

Didn't they know it was Dorner when they decided to burn him to death? Coyotl Feb 2013 #1

Good point! get the red out Feb 2013 #4

Whoever was in the cabin had the option of coming out magical thyme Feb 2013 #9

no. you didnt watch. the fire was after they shot hundreds of rounds into the cabin. robinlynne Feb 2013 #13

With him shooting back. Light House Feb 2013 #19

the point was, "he had the option of coming out". not true. robinlynne Feb 2013 #49

Yes he did have the option of coming out. Light House Feb 2013 #55

exactly. magical thyme Feb 2013 #88

+1000000000000000000000000. Light House Feb 2013 #90

No! Lions_fan Feb 2013 #115

+1 Incitatus Feb 2013 #119

Dorner had no intention of being taken alive period. Light House Feb 2013 #120

How do you know he didn't try to surrender? Lions_fan Feb 2013 #121

How do I know? Light House Feb 2013 #122

I can also make an educated guess. Lions_fan Feb 2013 #123

Let me poke a hole in your theory. Light House Feb 2013 #125

Ok... Lions_fan Feb 2013 #128

I'm not condoning what those officers did. Light House Feb 2013 #129

He has had the option of turning himself in from the beginning magical thyme Feb 2013 #87

He never had that option. Lions_fan Feb 2013 #124

+500 rounds Historic NY Feb 2013 #126

You know what this is no longer a media lead story....... Historic NY Feb 2013 #127

Unless that dead body had been there awhile ... Myrina Feb 2013 #24

Nothing odd. Passports survive plane crashes. Downwinder Feb 2013 #50

He might have wanted to rent a car or vote. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #62

Luv your sig line. Light House Feb 2013 #64

ty..... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #73

That it does. Light House Feb 2013 #76

Or rent a jet ski. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #92

I missed your reply when I posted a similar idea below magical thyme Feb 2013 #96

No he didn't Mugweed Feb 2013 #116

ok, you make a good point there magical thyme Feb 2013 #118

The doubt over his identity is just procedural caseymoz Feb 2013 #17

another thought. If he had taken a hostage and killed that person magical thyme Feb 2013 #48

I doubt the PD would settle for the wrong guy. caseymoz Feb 2013 #74

I'm not saying the PD would settle for the wrong guy magical thyme Feb 2013 #83

Yeah, I heard that too: there were supposedly foot prints in the snow leading to the horse coral... lexw Feb 2013 #85

GOOD donco Feb 2013 #58

Ahhh, the poor guy. Killing cops and innocent Americans, terrorizing the country. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #108

Freakin' figure it out. For sure. truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #2

Who else would it be? bemildred Feb 2013 #3

A hostage? nt Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #5

Right, he has killed others siligut Feb 2013 #11

Normally, that would have weight. 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #10

Let's paint the entire police forces of So. Cal. with the same brush! SCVDem Feb 2013 #81

more and more of what I see is the police departments 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #91

i guess he's dead as a Dorner tk2kewl Feb 2013 #32

There was "suppressed fire" from the cabin. bemildred Feb 2013 #44

Or someone else who decided to open fire at fish and wildlife wardens geek tragedy Feb 2013 #93

Indeed, could have been anyone, could have been the Easter Bunny. nt bemildred Feb 2013 #94

That's no ordinary rabbit. Look at the teeth! nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #97

It's the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog! nt bemildred Feb 2013 #99

Maybe the cops used the geek tragedy Feb 2013 #100

Wasn't his wallet and badge found MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #6

I wonder, if it managed to make it through that hot fire 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #12

Remember it happened in a snow covered roxy1234 Feb 2013 #30

But. MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #46

This "story' is totally unofficial and anonymous anyway. no way a license survived that fire. robinlynne Feb 2013 #52

Again, This is what we expect roxy1234 Feb 2013 #54

'a picture ID' and badge were found; it wasn't specified it was a driver's license muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #57

It probably was his LAPD picture ID. Light House Feb 2013 #60

It didn't say his license was turned in to San Diego police Light House Feb 2013 #65

Nobody said it was "unscathed". And house fires, like other structure kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #31

of course you are correct and 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #35

Modern DL's aren't made of paper Light House Feb 2013 #38

now I am curious 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #42

If it's anything like my DL Light House Feb 2013 #47

Did you see the fire? robinlynne Feb 2013 #53

Not in person. Nor did you. Stuff doesn't burn equally. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #110

And if he was in the basement marions ghost Feb 2013 #86

Most cops I know keep their shield and ID separate from their regular wallet. Light House Feb 2013 #34

But Dorner's shield(s) and LAPD ID would have been taken from him when he was fired, right? Nay Feb 2013 #79

Not necessarily. Light House Feb 2013 #82

makes sense. robinlynne Feb 2013 #111

No, it was a picture ID and his badge, not his driver's license. Link below to time line. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #101

Dorner kebab Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #7

That is so completely tasteless I have to give it a +1. n/t eggplant Feb 2013 #22

At least he stopped smoking last night. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #98

Naw. Light House Feb 2013 #105

I call bull crap midwest irish Feb 2013 #8

omg! sadly too true. 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #16

Good point... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #20

Most cops I know Light House Feb 2013 #21

Fired cops don't have a shield or police ID at all, do they? Nay Feb 2013 #80

No. Light House Feb 2013 #84

You're right. The ID story is false. caseymoz Feb 2013 #25

All true midwest irish Feb 2013 #36

No actually it's all madmom Feb 2013 #41

What's funny is this conspiracy theory Light House Feb 2013 #45

If nothing else this place is always good for a chuckle with it's madmom Feb 2013 #56

I WANT a good conspiracy theory!!!! dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #68

How did he have a badge? midwest irish Feb 2013 #66

When new cops are sworn in, Light House Feb 2013 #71

That was a "Picture ID" not driver's license. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #102

Purposely burn him and then identify him. How does a wallet and license that are appleannie1 Feb 2013 #14

That's what I'm wondering too! n/t PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #18

Read replies in this thread dbackjon Feb 2013 #63

It was a picture ID, not a license. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #103

how could a drivers license survive that raging fire? sure. robinlynne Feb 2013 #15

Wasn't one of the 9/11 Hi-jackers identity found KoKo Feb 2013 #23

LAPD only had his shield and his police ID Light House Feb 2013 #27

I thought that same thing! davsand Feb 2013 #28

if they can ID dental records or some other form of biological confirmation midwest irish Feb 2013 #40

If he isn't turned into ash, totally burnt, they can tell a lot during an autopsy. uppityperson Feb 2013 #51

It was in his wallet - lynne Feb 2013 #69

I worked in residential disaster restoration for a few years. You'd be surprised. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #117

Guess we're going to have to wait for the official story nc4bo Feb 2013 #26

Thank you!!! Light House Feb 2013 #29

if LEO are not worthy of our blind trust roxy1234 Feb 2013 #33

well, because the dead couple were who they were. Policeman's daughter engaged to a policeman. robinlynne Feb 2013 #112

But doesn't the part about not trusting MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #43

Didn't he call Monica Quan's father saying that her death was punishment against him? nc4bo Feb 2013 #61

That I don't know MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #67

Then there is this post over on GD showing where he makes the admissions nc4bo Feb 2013 #70

Geeeezus MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #75

But the LAPD shot with the intent to injure or kill innocent people in the process of nc4bo Feb 2013 #78

Before launching the incendiary device marions ghost Feb 2013 #89

Well, it does sound like a plot from CSI. n/t Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #104

The third thing is there are more conspiracy theories on this than there are Von Trapp family singer LanternWaste Feb 2013 #113

What.ever. nc4bo Feb 2013 #114

We had a house fire that "destroyed everything" Trajan Feb 2013 #37

If anyone thinks that Dorner was going to be able to give himself up PDJane Feb 2013 #39

He shot at fish and wildlife rangers and a deputy. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #95

If anyone thinkds that Dorner had any intention of giving himself up. onenote Feb 2013 #106

"Let's burn this mother fucker out!" ~ LAPD Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #59

Jury trials are for sissies Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #107

Best way to tell if Dorner is deceased. Downwinder Feb 2013 #72

I don't understand why they tore the walls down and burned the place, except they wanted him dead. Sunlei Feb 2013 #77

Tests to Show if Fugitive Died in California Cabin struggle4progress Feb 2013 #109