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18. Plain search used to do that

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Wed Jun 10, 2026, 06:07 PM

Jun 10

Search results at one time "cut right to the chase" before Google destroyed it.

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Nobody needs AI to search the Internet, court says in ruling against Google [View all] highplainsdem Jun 10 OP

Wow, this is a great ruling. I hope it holds! SunSeeker Jun 10 #1

Outside of the issue of defamatory statements... reACTIONary Jun 10 #2

You can find them useful. Doesn't change the fact that AI isn't necessary for the task, which these companies are all Karasu Jun 10 #4

Nobody is forcing users to use AI.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #13

Um..yes, they are. "Scrolling down" doesn't change that. Companies forcing the use of AI goes MUCH farther than simple Karasu Jun 10 #17

Unless you check everything in the AI overview - every alleged fact, every quote, every source - you highplainsdem Jun 10 #5

It's not really that hard to check it out.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #12

LOL! In other words, you don't check. And it sounds as if you'd use AI overviews you hadn't bothered highplainsdem Jun 10 #31

If you look at a page from a "regular" web page search, do you.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #34

I've seen news stories including studies about the links in AI overviews often not actually leading highplainsdem Jun 10 #36

I'm focused on the value AI brings to .... reACTIONary Jun 10 #50

AI search on the internet is a parasite killing its host. There's no value in that. The errors make its highplainsdem Jun 10 #51

Well then, if that's the case, eventually..... reACTIONary Jun 10 #52

Of all the silly comparisons. Calculators would never have been widely used if they were as error-prone highplainsdem Jun 10 #57

I sometimes post AI search results here, and.... reACTIONary Jun 11 #58

The whopper is everything you've said suggesting people should trust AI results. Even AI companies highplainsdem Jun 11 #61

Not any less trustful than "the internet" itself..... reACTIONary Jun 11 #67

Again, you're trusting AI summaries known to make mistakes. You're also choosing to use AI tools highplainsdem Jun 11 #69

Again, I've never accessed anything on the internet... reACTIONary Jun 11 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Betty Boom Jun 11 #68

Thanks for your comments Betty Boom Jun 11 #71

You are welcome! Here on DU, even those who are a bit... reACTIONary Jun 11 #74

Unfortunately, I had quite an unpleasant experience to the contrary recently Betty Boom Jun 11 #75

The problem with AI overviews is that they're not reliable. ShazzieB Jun 10 #14

I think they are more reliable than some make them out to be.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #16

There are still whoppers aplenty. cab67 Jun 10 #38

Plain search used to do that Cirsium Jun 10 #18

Your experience with "plain search" and with... reACTIONary Jun 10 #19

it isn't a matter of opinion Cirsium Jun 10 #20

It seems to be a subjective judgement to me.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #23

OK Cirsium Jun 10 #30

Wow! Thanks.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #32

Thank you Cirsium Jun 11 #60

I sometimes find them amusing. cab67 Jun 10 #37

And you just admitted you have to wade through irrelevant junk... paleotn Jun 10 #42

Then one has to verify that it's not inaccurate slop GenThePerservering Jun 10 #46

How can you be sure what the agenda of the AI programmer is? Like an algorithm, it can steer us in the direction Martin68 Jun 11 #78

You make a very good point... reACTIONary Jun 11 #79

I, too, usually conduct searches about scientific and other "basic facts," and have found some of the AI summaries Martin68 Jun 11 #80

We were able to do it just fine (in fact, better) BEFORE this immensely destructive shit came along. Karasu Jun 10 #3

Yes. Search was much better before. highplainsdem Jun 10 #6

The quality of their searches declined significantly. hunter Jun 10 #27

AI "search" Be Leave On Jun 10 #7

Profitable, because we are a post-literate society. SouthBayDem Jun 10 #56

Fuck Google! caballojm Jun 10 #8

DuckDuckGo has an AI, but they actually allow you to completely turn it off, and they have a version of their site that Karasu Jun 10 #10

Same here. paleotn Jun 10 #43

Everyone getting those commercials claiming we need a million data centers Bengus81 Jun 10 #9

Here's what's wrong with the massive data centers ... FakeNoose Jun 11 #65

Their wanting to put one up around Garden City,Ks and it's projected water use Bengus81 Jun 11 #66

Yes many of these data centers are going up in rural areas, and lack of zoning laws is a big reason FakeNoose Jun 11 #76

Kick dalton99a Jun 10 #11

I want to know how Progressive dog Jun 10 #15

I have not seen contradictions, but I think vanlassie Jun 10 #22

I have seen something worse than a contradiction. pnwmom Jun 10 #24

Yea that's bad. I would never accept personal info vanlassie Jun 10 #28

You could find it just as easily with a 'precisely composed query' GenThePerservering Jun 10 #47

I've been a heavy user of the internet for many years. vanlassie Jun 11 #62

Even more reprehensible... GiqueCee Jun 10 #21

Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician, highplainsdem Jun 10 #44

Nailed it! GiqueCee Jun 10 #45

It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost. SouthBayDem Jun 10 #53

So the AI bros ripping off the world's intellectual property is just human nature? highplainsdem Jun 11 #59

Republicans will pass a law making it illegal to restrict AI search Bobstandard Jun 10 #25

'Almost Intelligence' trains from anything it can find (within reason, supposedly) 3825-87867 Jun 10 #26

"Imitation Intelligence" is a good name. hunter Jun 10 #29

It's pretty easy to tell if Republicans are lying!--- Jack Valentino Jun 10 #33

I call it a fancy shorthand for Anti-Intellectualism. SouthBayDem Jun 10 #54

I wish this was here. Figarosmom Jun 10 #35

I probably don't ask complicated questions, but I find the Google AI helpful Bluetus Jun 10 #40

I've asked about current news events Figarosmom Jun 10 #41

That's an astute judge. But it goes beyond that. Bluetus Jun 10 #39

This is something a lot of people don't understand GenThePerservering Jun 10 #49

I heard a good explanation the other day Bluetus Jun 11 #72

very insightful. that's why hallucinations will never go away altogether. nt scipan Jun 10 #55

People still use Google? It's a spy agency that sells your data. I stopped ages ago. usonian Jun 10 #48

Type -ai at the end of your search and you'll find out how little you need AI Bengus81 Jun 11 #63

AI regurgitates a lot of garbage and presents itself as fact. Historic NY Jun 11 #64

AI Chatbots reviewed by Behind the Bastards ihaveaquestion Jun 11 #70

Google is using AI in the same way that using an algorithm produces search results that benefit advertisers. Martin68 Jun 11 #77