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9. Why Trump Can't 'Void' Biden's Pardons Because of Autopen
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:24 PM
Nov 28

trump uses the autopen for his pardons and other documents. trump has no power to void any of President Biden's orders or pardons

Why Trump Can’t ‘Void’ Biden’s Pardons Because of Autopen

Trump signaled that he intends to nullify all
presidential pardons—issued by Biden

time.com/7268902/trum...

Tara O'Grady (@taraogrady.bsky.social) 2025-03-18T10:56:51.188Z

https://time.com/7268902/trump-void-bidens-pardon-autopen/

But according to the U.S. Constitution, the President has no such authority to overturn his predecessor’s pardons, especially not based on the type of signature, legal experts say. “The Constitution doesn't even require that the pardon be written, so the idea that the signature is by autopen rather than by handwritten signature seems not relevant to the constitutionality because Article II just says that the President has the power to pardon,” says Bernadette Meyler, a Stanford Law School professor and constitutional law expert.

Autopen is an electronic signature that allows individuals to sign a document without physically being there. The signature mimics a handwritten signature, but is done by a computer. A vast number of statutes and other documents have been signed by autopen, experts say. For instance, former President Barack Obama signed a national security measure via autopen while he was in France. Meyler says that if presidential pardons were to be invalidated because of an autopen signature, that could bring into question other policies that were signed by such measures. “When so much is being automated and put online, requiring some literalness in the signature really would be a step backwards," she says.

A 2005 guidance from the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) noted that a President does not need to “personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill he approves and decides to sign in order for the bill to become law. Rather, the President may sign a bill within the meaning of Article I, Section 7 by directing a subordinate to affix the President’s signature to such a bill, for example by autopen.”

Jeffrey Crouch, a professor at American University, told Axios that pardons are final so long as they are valid......

If Trump were to try to prosecute someone who received a presidential pardon, experts say the case would likely go to courts, where Trump’s actions are unlikely to stand. “I can't imagine the court saying that it wasn't a valid pardon because of the autopen issue,” says Meyler. “Biden made statements regarding these pardons, so it would be hard to show that they weren't a decision of the President.”

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16 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Two Words Donald: Get Help! Chasstev365 Nov 28 #1
I would choose two different words. Harker Nov 28 #2
Is the second one "off?" The Madcap Nov 28 #5
Oh, yes! Harker Nov 28 #6
Either that or "painfully". Grown2Hate Nov 28 #29
Great minds think alike orangecrush Nov 28 #16
Evidently we do, too. Harker Nov 28 #19
Nope - wrong two......... MyOwnPeace Nov 28 #4
As your presidency falls apart and 2026 looms, fight the last war again bucolic_frolic Nov 28 #3
trump is scared of the latest polling numbers LetMyPeopleVote Nov 28 #7
How long will the media normalize this stuff? How long will the Country enough Nov 28 #8
Why Trump Can't 'Void' Biden's Pardons Because of Autopen LetMyPeopleVote Nov 28 #9
Thanks for this info Bayard Nov 28 #36
TY, LMPV! Cha Saturday #40
Does this change anything I wonder? mahina Nov 28 #10
And I invalidate all your J6 pardons. Get real. sinkingfeeling Nov 28 #11
The fascist nazi pig was going to do it anyway he just came up with another brainless excuse to do so. nt yaesu Nov 28 #12
He is so insecure he has to try to wipe out history Attilatheblond Nov 28 #13
99.9999% chance that any order he does to that effect will be signed with his autopen. RockCreek Nov 28 #14
It doesn't work that way... FloridaBlues Nov 28 #15
Biden Derangement Syndrome. AKA, Psychological... ColoringFool Nov 28 #17
Or... Gregory1230 Nov 28 #27
Ex Post Facto BidenRocks Nov 28 #18
This shit is NOT his idea duckworth969 Nov 28 #20
i cannot wait for the oompah lompa to be DELETED and overturned. pansypoo53219 Nov 28 #21
"Making up shit as we go!" WestMichRad Nov 28 #22
Is he testing the legal waters? JohnnyRingo Nov 28 #23
There is video of trump admitting to using autopen LetMyPeopleVote Nov 28 #24
My question popsdenver Nov 28 #25
He's just committing more crimes Joinfortmill Nov 28 #26
Justice Department quietly replaced 'identical' Trump signatures on recent pardons Norrrm Nov 28 #28
Autopenis? BattleRow Nov 28 #33
Geez...the orange idiot is himself just an auto pen... LaRaven Nov 28 #30
I hope he autopenned "feed Trump". GreenWave Nov 28 #31
I'm surprised he hasn't demanded a crown and royal scepter yet. Quanta Nov 28 #32
Thus, the first law of Trumpism kicks in... Hugin Nov 28 #34
Why doesn't he just fucking die already? Orrex Nov 28 #35
Lawsuits Will Come in an Avalanche MissouriDem47 Nov 28 #37
Once again... GiqueCee Saturday #38
Blah, blah, blah! Martin68 Saturday #39
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