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onenote

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65. That is not necessarily so.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 09:20 AM
Nov 19

The case law regarding "pocket vetoes" is somewhat murky. Among other things, whether it only applies when Congress adjourns sine die or applies during any recess, even one of just a few days so long as it covers the tenth day has not been definitively resolved. Moreover, the standard practice for some time has been for Congress, when it goes on recess, to designate someone to receive a veto message from the president, the argument being that by doing so, it means the basis for the pocket veto procedure - the unavailability of Congress to receive the message -- wouldn't apply. It has been 18 years since the last attempt to pocket veto a bill that passed with a veto-proof margin.

In any event, the constitution refers to "adjournment" and and an adjournment is different from a "recess". The procedure for adjourning the House varies depending on the length of the adjournment. For example, adjournments of three days or less are taken pursuant to motion (or by unanimous consent) ; (2) adjournments of more than three days, which require the consent of the Senate, and adjournments sine die,
which end each session of a Congress and which require the consent of both Houses. Adjournments of more than three days or sine die are
taken pursuant to concurrent resolutions.

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I still don't believe TSF will actually sign it...under investigation or some other wacked out excuse... wcmagumba Nov 18 #1
Veto it? He might and with the same vote, that veto will be over ridden. He's not getting to skip his tine in the barrel marble falls Nov 18 #2
I hope you are right.... wcmagumba Nov 18 #4
Oh, that's right. They have the votes to override it. ananda Nov 18 #25
he may sign the bill or pocket veto the damn thing rampartd Nov 18 #35
And then they put right back up and there is no more veto exposure. Pocket veto is a delaying tactic a President uses .. marble falls Nov 19 #61
I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans who were C Moon Nov 18 #40
Wouldn't it look particularly ridiculous to veto something... 3catwoman3 Nov 18 #57
Not in TACO land. marble falls Nov 19 #62
Oh i'm sure he will!! bluestarone Nov 18 #5
True, but it's a horrible look and will add to the undermining of Trump's standing among all but his core. TheRickles Nov 18 #8
Trump has been cornered into a lose-lose position Random Boomer Nov 18 #24
Why do you say sunk? Gordcanuck Nov 18 #50
This bill was craftily written TexLaProgressive Nov 18 #31
I agree.. Born Free Nov 18 #55
They may claim it, but there is no investigation active on it right now. Congress wants it released and passed a bill. marble falls Nov 19 #63
I think they can override it this time. Demsrule86 Nov 18 #9
All they have to do is repeat their vote. all 100 Senators vote for the release, more than 2/3s the House. Veto proof. marble falls Nov 19 #64
He might not but as it stands, it will become law even without Trumps signiture because riversedge Nov 18 #14
Well, next step anyway. Stand by for further drmphf obstruction. Leaks, please! electric_blue68 Nov 18 #3
Senators don't want to have their votes on the record? IronLionZion Nov 18 #6
Doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised the house bluestarone Nov 18 #12
Clay Higgons is on record as the only one voting against it IronLionZion Nov 18 #15
I give Clay Higgins credit. As despicable a person as he is Wiz Imp Nov 18 #34
I want their votes on record. doublethink Nov 18 #7
Actually it does. Wiz Imp Nov 18 #37
I think we might just get a veto proof bill... Demsrule86 Nov 18 #10
and then a scrubbed file SamuelTheThird Nov 18 #17
There's too many people who know what are in the files Tribetime Nov 18 #36
There's still the Epstein family and what they have. Joinfortmill Nov 18 #41
There is much going on here behind the scenes, IMHO. Who is talking to survivors and wiggs Nov 18 #11
It's been a helluva day for the felon. Now comes his and Bondi's big tell. It's all on them. ancianita Nov 18 #13
"The trump era might be ending." calimary Nov 19 #58
Right? ancianita Nov 19 #59
Will Trump soon receive a visit from top Mepublicans callous taoboy Nov 19 #60
Show us how much money is being spent on any purported ongoing investigation dickthegrouch Nov 18 #16
All investigations have been stopped when pedo the felon fired Comey's daughter. Justice matters. Nov 18 #39
Reminder: Trump Apparently Could Have Authorized the Complete Release With or Without Strings, At Any Time! The Roux Comes First Nov 18 #18
Exactly! Wiz Imp Nov 18 #38
He still could this very minute. Justice matters. Nov 18 #42
So if he doesn't sign it will it become law anyway? Or will that be a pocket veto and it stops the bill? Botany Nov 18 #19
That internet rumor has been proven 100% FALSE Wiz Imp Nov 18 #43
So if Mike Johnson adjourns the house for the year by November 27 then the bill is blocked? Botany Nov 18 #47
He doesn't even have to adjourn for the year. Wiz Imp Nov 18 #48
Anybody with a scintilla of a brain can see that Trump is way way way deep into the Epstein/Putin/Trump ... Botany Nov 18 #49
I'm confident that attempts to "scrub" the files will not work Wiz Imp Nov 18 #53
That is not necessarily so. onenote Nov 19 #65
If TSF doesn't sign the bill... WestMichRad Nov 18 #46
Outside of cheating and dirty media, the real culprit was sick, racist and misogynist voters. MLAA Nov 18 #51
Wow! I didn't see that coming! I thought they'd stall for months and months Warpy Nov 18 #20
All we know for sure is Sneederbunk Nov 18 #21
This is all a setup AverageOldGuy Nov 18 #22
Yes, of course, but he's not fooling anyone else than his 33% rabid cultists. Justice matters. Nov 18 #44
I hope nobody is expecting to see any info related to Trump in the files. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #23
Good for Schumer! mcar Nov 18 #26
Unanimous consent decreed - the Senate didn't even have time to vote FakeNoose Nov 18 #27
More proof they've been scrubbed clean. Come on Mark Epstein, give us whatever you have. Scrivener7 Nov 18 #28
Hot potato bucolic_frolic Nov 18 #29
I expect we'll find out that during Sunday brunch somebody Turbineguy Nov 18 #30
Or leaked them! TheRickles Nov 18 #33
This is just the beginning popsdenver Nov 18 #32
Four hundred reams of blank paper. The end. twodogsbarking Nov 18 #45
The fix is in. choie Nov 18 #52
Maybe the GOP will try to claim tRump isn't a republican next. nt BootinUp Nov 18 #54
Void the Victim's NDAs Remball Nov 18 #56
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