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Martin Eden

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37. OK, it's a "stiff" litmus test (not "prominent") that Swalwell explicitly called for in that post.
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 09:37 AM
Oct 2025

OBVIOUSLY, we're not talking about a pledge which has already been taken by Democrats who have declared their candidacy for president in the 2028 election. How many have actually declared at this point?

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT is Swalwell's proposal that there SHOULD BE a stiff litmus test that every Democratic presidential candidate must pledge to demolish Trump’s monstrous ballroom.

We're discussing whether or not such a pledge is a good idea, in terms of the effect it may have on the general election. My argument is it would be prominent in Republican narratives that Democrats only want to destroy Trump’s legacy, rather than actually help the American people.

As I stated in post #17 that would be a pack of LIES, but it could be effective, given that voters have fallen for so much Repuke BS in the past (with help from corporate media).

Electoral politics aside, I would very much like to see Trump’s abominable monument to himself demolished (if built).

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Assuming Trump is dead by 2029, make the Trump kids pay for the restoration to the way it was. Chasstev365 Oct 2025 #1
IMHO, if the damn thing is built...sweep it for bugs and if it can be cleaned... CincyDem Oct 2025 #3
Nope. It HAS TO be destroyed. calimary Oct 2025 #10
It must be completely razed to the ground, and the East Wing rebuilt as it was before Trump wrecked it. sop Oct 2025 #19
Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project called it a ReRe Oct 2025 #22
Destroyed Fumigated, fumigated, fumigated, then bluestarone Oct 2025 #49
I want to see the wrecking ball and some controlled explosives. Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #14
No. If for no other reason It Dwarfs the White House. Plus, I want gone bc it's His grifty, overblown, ugly building! electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #58
I think you're right, they probably said the same thing about the Washington Monument at one time FakeNoose Oct 2025 #60
It has to be torn down. Period. Don't name it for a decent man. Hekate Oct 2025 #2
Agree. Silver Gaia Oct 2025 #8
I doubt President Obama would want his name on it. llmart Oct 2025 #13
Did anyone ASK Obama about this? I revere him so much... CTyankee Oct 2025 #24
Make it a White House museum forgotmylogin Oct 2025 #42
It already exists & is called the Smithsonian. Available to the public, heavily trafficked, away from the WH... Hekate Oct 2025 #43
Hand out the gold scraps to the poor. Captain Zero Oct 2025 #32
Make it a museum with all trump atrocities kerouac2 Oct 2025 #4
It throws the entire landscape NJCher Oct 2025 #5
"...a permanent scar..." markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #51
It's a waste to build it! ChazInAz Oct 2025 #54
90k sq ft is plenty of room to build prison cells for all of these fucks n/t Cheezoholic Oct 2025 #6
It isn't just a 'ballroom'. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2025 #7
if they don't, we the people will nt Javaman Oct 2025 #9
IF Built---Still a Big "IF"---It Won't Be Razed ColoringFool Oct 2025 #11
Yeah if built & completed I doubt most voters would want it torn down again & at taxpayer expense EX500rider Oct 2025 #23
I would, along with everyone I know. mwb970 Oct 2025 #26
Unfortunately unless your sample size is around 300 million that's not very indicative EX500rider Oct 2025 #39
Sorry to have bothered you. mwb970 Oct 2025 #55
Why would I be bothered? It's a discussion board, people post their opinions EX500rider Oct 2025 #59
One time tax surcharge on corporations Captain Zero Oct 2025 #33
I want it demolished, BUT... will this pledge help Democrats win in 2028? Martin Eden Oct 2025 #12
We can do both. Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #15
My concern is how such a pledge can be used against us Martin Eden Oct 2025 #17
We COULD work on our own narrative, and present that monstrosity for what it is: a monument to a sick and damaged idiot Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #20
By all means Democrats need to hammer an effective narrative Martin Eden Oct 2025 #29
My thoughts exactly sunnybrook Oct 2025 #18
I see no reason this would compel anyone to lose sight Torchlight Oct 2025 #28
The pledge wouldn't "compel" Democrats to lose sight of our highest priority Martin Eden Oct 2025 #30
It's not a prominent litmus test, it's a twitter post Torchlight Oct 2025 #36
OK, it's a "stiff" litmus test (not "prominent") that Swalwell explicitly called for in that post. Martin Eden Oct 2025 #37
Swing voters fell for the "they're eating the cats and dogs" lie. Those are their priorities ck4829 Oct 2025 #45
Use for the Trump Administration trials. nwliberalkiwi Oct 2025 #16
Swalwell speaks for me on this. Paladin Oct 2025 #21
I want the whole thing torn down as soon as possible. mwb970 Oct 2025 #25
We can't call it the Obama Ballroom... bleedingulcers Oct 2025 #27
Eric Swalwell can't take possession of this idea ReRe Oct 2025 #31
Agree, especially with your last paragraph. yorkster Oct 2025 #35
Start with a "tear down" of the people yorkster Oct 2025 #34
Yes, 10000X yes Bluetus Oct 2025 #38
How about pledging to hold these fascist accountable. nt Hotler Oct 2025 #40
Will it actually get built ? JI7 Oct 2025 #41
Make it a homeless shelter. rogue emissary Oct 2025 #44
It would cost too much to destroy it. lark Oct 2025 #46
Just close it up and cite shoddy construction Owens Oct 2025 #47
I want it leveled. I don't want to the next pres to ask permission. Swalwell, is right. This is rotten to its core. Jbraybarten Oct 2025 #48
Dems could turn the demolition into a fundraiser... ultralite001 Oct 2025 #50
I pledge to donate at least $2500 to demolish the ballroom lapfog_1 Oct 2025 #52
Symbolic, but I'd rather see a pledge to dismantle the compromised and corrupt Supreme Court. pecosbob Oct 2025 #53
Ask for a show of hands at the primary debate JoseBalow Oct 2025 #56
Before the Presidential Limo is started at the Capitol to take the new Pres. Elect back to the Dem4life1970 Oct 2025 #57
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