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angrychair

(11,316 posts)
18. Honestly it doesn't matter
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:39 PM
Oct 16

I'll be completely frank I don't know what the answer is anymore.
The Senate and House Democratic caucus cannot trust Republicans on anything they say. They can even include it in the budget and pass it only to have the Mango Mussolini administration just decide "nah, nevermind" and refuse to do it.
No matter what they negotiate they can now just line item veto all they want or just reduce it by whatever they want and there really absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.
The courts can yell at them, as they are doing now about court orders this administration is ignoring, but the courts are completely toothless because they have no means of enforcement.

Basically our only hope is literally that people will finally have enough but I have lost all faith in humanity at this point and truly believe that if he just issues a $500 check that most people will shut up and be quiet and let him do whatever he wants.
I always love how people say stuff like "would you let "person X" do "thing X" for a million dollars" when in reality the average American would sell out their entire family for a $25 gift card to Denny's.
Maybe I'm wrong and hopefully I am but the country is in a very bad spot right now and I don't think there is a lot of options on the table to fix it

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Wow. A Republican political leader lied. Shocking. hatrack Oct 16 #1
Is it a lie? quakerboy Oct 16 #15
Have that vote now - you are getting paid....do your job. walkingman Oct 16 #2
dear dems - repubs have ALL the votes they need to end shutdown. rinse and repeat 24/7 dont argue in the media nt msongs Oct 16 #3
🖕 All these fuckers in the RepuQ party do is LIE and GASLIGHT the voting public day-in, day-out 🖕 AZJonnie Oct 16 #4
I don't Rebl2 Oct 16 #5
Don't Do It DallasNE Oct 16 #6
Exactly. Raven123 Oct 16 #7
Another thing this shows DallasNE Friday #29
Thune's position hasn't changed at all, and ABC News should not repackage it this way Prairie Gates Oct 16 #8
They're not repackaging - they are quoting from the MSNBC interview this morning BumRushDaShow Oct 16 #9
It is repackaging because Thune's position has not changed at all Prairie Gates Oct 16 #10
"Are they going to report every time he says the same thing on a new day as if it is something new?" BumRushDaShow Oct 16 #11
They are reporting it as if it is a new offer Prairie Gates Oct 16 #12
He is asserting it as an actual "offer" to the media as a P.R. stunt and defensive move BumRushDaShow Oct 16 #13
Yes, I understand what he's doing and so does ABC, which is why they should report it Prairie Gates Oct 16 #14
ACA Repeal by another name bmichaelh Oct 16 #16
The subsidies HAVE to be packaged with the CR, otherwise.... reACTIONary Oct 16 #17
Honestly it doesn't matter angrychair Oct 16 #18
GEE. WHO TO BELIEVE? Skittles Oct 16 #19
He wants to pass the bill, then he will negotiate after the shutdown ends JohnnyRingo Oct 16 #20
alternate headline: barbtries Friday #21
"but that he couldn't guarantee an outcome" Javaman Friday #22
In the meantime, we keep sitting at home.... COL Mustard Friday #23
Eventually, their endless lies may catch up with them dlk Friday #24
Keep it shut down until the midterms if necessary MichMan Friday #25
Wow! Thune is in lockstep samplegirl Friday #26
Thule knows it wouldn't pass lonely bird Friday #27
bullshit! mike_c Friday #28
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