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Bernardo de La Paz

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76. That is not the past behaviour. I'm not a genius and you are educated, so explain it. I don't see where it is going.

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Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:43 AM

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I see multiple paths but I don't have your certainty about what path will be taken. Some are filled with incompetency and idiocy, but NONE of them are based on any belief that the WH self-styled economic genius or the California oligarchs are working to destroy the California economy terroristically or otherwise. That includes the numerous oligarchs behind or adjacent to tRump. tRump doesn't like California and his oligarchs don't like California politics, but both know that "destroying" the state's economy would destroy the US economy, which doesn't help any oligarch and is the last thing tRump wants as his legacy. So your thesis fails though you might resuscitate it if you explain it.

There is much too much eleven word hand-wringing and dooming on DU and the doomers expect everyone to just knuckle under and accept their say-so. Dooming others is not a good look, just stop.

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