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Cirsium

(3,002 posts)
123. But that isn't the issue
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:54 PM
Saturday

Regardless of how bad Maduro supposedly is, there is no excuse for supporting fascism. We are talking about Machado. But even if the discussion were not about Machado, our focus still should not be on Madoro, but rather on the global right wing movement which is by far the greater threat to us than the regime in Venezuela.

Since the end of the Second World War, U.S. foreign policy has displayed a predictable pattern. Progressive states unwilling to submit to U.S. dictates are branded as “dictatorships,” “terrorist sponsors,” or, in Venezuela’s case, a “narcotic state.”

Through sanctions, blockades, and financial strangulation, Washington seeks to suffocate economies until populations turn against their governments. Africa has experienced this repeatedly, with sanctions weaponised against countries that dared to assert independence.

From Iraq to Libya, Afghanistan to Grenada, U.S. wars have toppled governments, destroyed infrastructure, and left millions dead. Africa, too, bears scars of this adventurism from NATO’s destruction of Libya to covert destabilisation across the Sahel.

At the core lies the desire to seize oil, minerals, and strategic territories for Western corporations. This same resource plunder defined the colonial experience of Africa and now defines Washington’s aggression against Venezuela.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/venezuela-imperialism-and-global-struggle-sovereignty


On September 2, President Trump publicly announced a lethal attack on a boat allegedly carrying drugs and tied to the Tren de Aragua, an extinct Venezuelan criminal gang that the US government claims is still active and operating on US soil. The US Intelligence Community reportedly denied ties between President Nicolas Maduro and these claims. Nonetheless, these allegations have been used to justify the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 for the third time in history – the first during the War of 1812 and the second during World War II – now targeting Venezuelans living in the US during peacetime. This led to the deportation of 252 Venezuelans, without due process, and to their imprisonment and torture in a concentration camp in El Salvador. Some were even separated from their children.

Trump’s rhetoric has also linked Venezuelan immigrants to criminality and mental illness, aligning with the nativist agenda in his own base. Driven by his policy of immigrant expulsion, the US migrant population dropped by 1.4 million between January and June of 2025, according to the Pew Research Center, causing the immigrant share of the population to decrease from 15.8 to 15.4 percent. After breaking diplomatic and consular ties in 2019 over the recognition of a self-proclaimed President, direct deportations were halted until February 2025, when the US allowed Venezuelan planes to repatriate migrants. Venezuela had already been implementing its Return to the Homeland (Vuelta a la Patria) program since the pandemic, but its airline was banned from the US by sanctions. The Trump Administration also increased its internal persecution of Venezuelans by ending temporary migratory measures set under the Biden Administration.

In the weeks leading up to the UN address, Trump claimed that at least two more lethal attacks on boats were carried out, posting videos that only showed people being killed by aerial bombardment, with no independent verification of the drug trafficking claims or the victims’ nationality. The Venezuelan government has also denounced the harassment of Venezuelan fishermen by US military officers. During his UN speech, Trump boasted that “there aren’t too many boats that are traveling on the seas by Venezuela,” suggesting that all sea vessels are now under threat. Furthermore, he also openly claimed that President Maduro was leading “terrorist and trafficking networks”, without presenting any evidence. In August, the bounty for Maduro’s capture was raised to USD 50 million, despite earlier intelligence community reports reportedly disregarding the claim.

Venezuela, its government, and its citizens are currently under threat from the most powerful military power in the world. Yet Venezuela has continued to seek a peaceful resolution. President Maduro sent a letter to Trump in the first week of September via an intermediary, calling for dialogue and refuting the drug-trafficking claims. The historical precedent of Operation Brother Sam in 1964 — where the deployment of US warships near Brazil catalyzed the military overthrow of democratically-elected president João Goulart is a parallel that hints at a regime change operation. The difference is that this time, there have been no anti-government defections.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/we-will-blow-you-out-existence-trumps-caribbean-spectacle

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We need her here in the US. Irish_Dem Friday #1
That selection BumRushDaShow Friday #2
My thoughts exactly Bum. Irish_Dem Friday #5
And Venezuela BumRushDaShow Friday #6
Just another reason popsdenver Friday #22
Maduro is just a "younger" (albeit 62 year old) despot like 45 BumRushDaShow Friday #30
Mara Corina Machado Parisca born 7 October 1967 (age 58) twodogsbarking Friday #38
Nicols Maduro born November 23, 1962 (age 62) BumRushDaShow Friday #44
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I figured that... BumRushDaShow Friday #47
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A small piece of justice for those murdered in cold blood by Trump. Irish_Dem Friday #29
She supports that Cirsium Friday #70
I just read that. :( Irish_Dem Friday #84
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"supports the sanctions and would love regime change by the US" EX500rider Friday #96
Right Cirsium Saturday #121
The so what is the EU isn't far right and they have sanctions so it isn't just us EX500rider Saturday #122
But that isn't the issue Cirsium Saturday #123
Pedofelon will blow a few more fishing boats. Justice matters. Friday #41
What difference does that make? Cirsium Friday #64
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She is an extreme right winger Cirsium Friday #72
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She isn't Cirsium Friday #75
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Donnie Two-scoops is gonna have a hissy!! Mawspam2 Friday #16
If it was ever awarded to him it would tarnish the meaning of it forever. Katinfl Friday #17
I'm very glad Trump didn't win, but.. karin_sj Friday #18
Well, then I need to read more about what is happening there. Karma13612 Friday #31
more will come out about her that is... unpalatable. druidity33 Friday #34
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She has supported many Cirsium Friday #86
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I care about context. cab67 Friday #94
Anything? Cirsium Saturday #120
I don't know what their limits are. You'd have to ask them. cab67 Saturday #126
OK Cirsium Saturday #129
I've already expressed them. cab67 Sunday #132
Thanks Cirsium Sunday #133
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I stand by what I wrote. cab67 Friday #109
facts show otherwise IMO EX500rider Saturday #111
I don't think we disagree..... cab67 Saturday #112
She praised him on Twitter Shrek Friday #50
What Was That!! Cha Friday #55
Where is the "praise" in that statement? EX500rider Friday #100
The "fishing boat" meme is kind of silly IMO EX500rider Friday #98
ROFLMAO. Glad they didn't fold to pressure from old Voldy. spudspud Friday #20
The Committee should award dumpie The Nobel PIECE Prize KS Toronado Friday #21
Must burn his fat orange ass that Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama have won the award. Ziggysmom Friday #23
Gloria al Bravo Pueblo Wild blueberry Friday #26
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Friday #32
CONGRATULATONS "Maria Corina Machado, for her tireless work upholding democratic rights for Venezuelans" riversedge Friday #33
She is an extreme right winger Cirsium Friday #89
Molly Jong-Fast: It really feels like they're trolling our autocrat. riversedge Friday #35
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I didn't know what she was when Cha Friday #108
"Extreme neoliberal shock therapy" Cirsium Friday #56
Yeah, all our "critical thinkers" might want to check it out a little before cheering. thought crime Friday #61
I know Now... Cirsium, the first reply to Cha Friday #106
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"The problems in Venezuela are mostly due to our Embargo depriving the country of needed trade" EX500rider Friday #103
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Yes, it is Cirsium Friday #74
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Peace Prize Remball Friday #59
Bookmarking. niyad Friday #66
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suck it DoBW Friday #77
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hear this one? DoBW Saturday #124
Heh! TY. (boo, hoo 😄) electric_blue68 Saturday #125
It's complicated . . . Aussie105 Friday #82
Press release Cirsium Friday #83
She is sickening for all the reasons you've laid out throughout this thread. AloeVera Saturday #127
Kick BlueWavePsych Friday #95
Who will Trump murder next to satisfy his rejected ego? Will Miller present a new killing as a salve to his boss? Blues Heron Friday #104
Hypocrisy: When Zelensky is allowed to praise Trump to free his country but Machado isn't. mathematic Saturday #113
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Weird that people are celebrating her. ForgoTheConsequence Saturday #114
Bomb Venezuelan boats lose to a Venezuelan LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #117
...who supports him Cirsium Saturday #119
A hard right Latin American róisín_dubh Sunday #131
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