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pat_k

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37. I poked around. It is a CMS "experiment" to root out nonexistent "waste/fraud/abuse"
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:27 PM
Sep 29

It's not the states that are implementing this. It is the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. They are adding some pre-authorization requirements for certain services/procedures provided under Part A and Part B (currently covered without pre-authorization).

It is not Managed Care in the same sense that Medicare Advantage is Managed Care.

So, it sounds like it will actually only affect people like me who keep their original Medicare and add a supplement because they refuse to be shoved into the rapidly deteriorating Medicare Advantage Plans.

Not surprising because Republicans hate people like me. They've fucked around with Medicare Advantage to weaken that coverage, but have been unable to touch Original Medicare. I am actually wondering if people in those six states can sue. I would like to know what authority CMS has to run this "experiment." Did the Republican Congress grant it? Or is it another case of an agency doing shit it is not allowed to do? I have more research to do.

AI Summary

CMS picked six states—Arizona, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, and Washington—for the Wasteful and Inappropriate Service Reduction (WISeR) model based on a combination of evaluability and operational criteria, including selecting within the same Medicare Administrative Contractor (MAC) jurisdictions to allow for direct comparison between test and comparison states, choosing states with sufficient claims volume for reliable impact estimates, and prioritizing states with existing administrative contractors that already had coverage policies for the targeted services.

Here's a breakdown of the selection criteria and process:

MAC Jurisdictions: The model was assigned to four MAC jurisdictions: JH, JL, JF, and J15.

Within-MAC Comparisons: CMS selected states within the same MAC jurisdictions so they could compare the test states to other states within that same MAC.

Adequate Claims Volume: States were chosen for their sufficient volume of claims, which allows for precise estimates of the model's impact.

Existing Coverage Policies: CMS prioritized states where the administrative contractors already had coverage policies for the services targeted by the model.

Geographic Diversity: The selected states represent diverse geographic areas.

Highest Historical Claim Paid Amounts: States meeting the evaluation criteria were also selected based on the highest historical claim paid amounts.

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He already knew that he was going to harm over 17 million people with health care he doesn't give a shit............ turbinetree Sep 29 #1
I believe the funding cuts had to do with Medicaid, not Medicare, and not renewing the subsidies lostincalifornia Sep 29 #4
Starting Jan 1st subsidies will go up around 50 to 100 percent, this will be the death of ACA which the fascists want.nt ImNotGod Sep 29 #12
absolutely. It is the most mean, immoral, attack against the most vulnerable people in our country. lostincalifornia Sep 29 #14
correct, and that will eventually increase healthcare costs for EVERYONE Skittles Sep 29 #32
Medicare is going to a new managed care model in 6 states in 2026. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #21
Aarp should be screaming about this flamingdem Sep 29 #23
Yes, no one seems to care. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #25
The seniors have been out there protesting flamingdem Sep 29 #39
I hope people complain. Irish_Dem Sep 30 #42
How the hell are they doing that? pat_k Sep 29 #30
If you are living in one of the six states, they are going to do it. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #31
I poked around. It is a CMS "experiment" to root out nonexistent "waste/fraud/abuse" pat_k Sep 29 #37
Found more: pat_k Sep 29 #38
Medicaid not Medicare and the way I understand it is that the cuts are so horrible Bengus81 Sep 30 #46
Kudos to Sen. Schumer mcar Sep 29 #2
I'll give him points if he holds firm Skittles Sep 29 #34
Why that can't be, I read here on DU that Sen. Schumer and Rep. Jeffries were getting ready to cave. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 29 #3
Not the first time.. Cha Sep 29 #7
Nor the last. sheshe2 Sep 29 #9
Not at this rate. Cha Sep 29 #10
but they quoted "anonymous sources". lostincalifornia Sep 29 #15
Oh, well then, it must be true, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 29 #19
Keep pressuring Schumer. Justice Brandeis Sep 29 #5
Maybe all those messages helped. ananda Sep 29 #6
Am I missing something? He's only one person. Why can't the rest of the Dems vote their conscience? Baitball Blogger Sep 29 #8
The House can easily pass the ridiculous C.R. because they will have the majority (which is needed for passage) BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #11
Yep, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 29 #13
My point is, if Shumer can't lead, why do the other senators have to listen to him? Baitball Blogger Sep 29 #16
I understand your and others' concern about his (lack of) "leadership" skills BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #17
Basic protocol is what gave us our weak hand. Baitball Blogger Sep 29 #18
You need to become a CSPAN junkie to see how they operate in Congress BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #24
The sad part is that Karma13612 Sep 30 #44
CSPAN does have a YouTube channel BumRushDaShow Sep 30 #48
Or... and hear me out... OldBaldy1701E Sep 30 #45
What you see today BumRushDaShow Sep 30 #49
There was a time when those who exploited loopholes would have been shut down by the community. OldBaldy1701E Sep 30 #50
I have posted a number of times before BumRushDaShow Sep 30 #52
Yes. OldBaldy1701E Oct 1 #53
"the president, who was really listening to us" BWdem4life Sep 29 #20
Hurting people in any form is exactly what psychopaths live for. ... littlemissmartypants Sep 29 #22
Apparently he played dumb about what was going to happen. Klarkashton Sep 29 #27
He who played dumb? littlemissmartypants Sep 29 #33
The elections are far off. Put the fucking heat on those Klarkashton Sep 29 #26
So, is the only "red line" ACA enhanced subsidies? pat_k Sep 29 #28
I think Medicaid cuts were also part of that. BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #29
Kick and Recommend! sheshe2 Sep 29 #35
Good. Ten days is a brief headline-dimming distraction DFW Sep 29 #36
A great way to keep up with developments in ACA tonekat Sep 29 #40
I hope that Schumer and Jeffries hold firm. Bread and Circuses Sep 29 #41
At the very least, Jeffries and Schumer are on the record for warning TSF no_hypocrisy Sep 30 #43
He's going to have to stay strong JustAnotherGen Sep 30 #47
What! When did Schumer grow a pair? lees1975 Sep 30 #51
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