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LeftInTX

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43. So, the far right is saying Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers Salt Lake City are
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:46 PM
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supposedly behind Charlie Kirk's killing.

I stumbled on this because, I went down a rabbit hole looking for some background info on a local issue https://www.tpr.org/government-politics/2025-09-17/texas-rangers-uvalde-police-investigate-death-of-congressional-staffer-to-rep-tony-gonzales and the rumor happened to be coming from a far right person. Then, popped up recent tweets about Elm Fork and Armed Queers on his feed. (That person is a supporter of AKGuy who is running against Gonzales. AKGuy and Gonzales are both Republicans)

The far right refers to many groups that are antifascist as "antifa", which isn't accurate. Of course, Trump is also far right, so any group that is "antifascist" is "antifa" to him.

However, the leader of Armed Queers SLC is affiliated with the Party of Socialism and Liberation, which is totalitarian, which is pretty much the opposite of antifa.

So, it appears these are pop-up type protest groups, which are "anti-fascist". Fringe groups will often have seedy people hanging around, such as Benjamin Song and his crew.

There is no evidence that Armed Queers SLC had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. They're just a group that Trump doesn't like.


https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/john-brown-gun-club-armed-anti-fascist-1234733200/
https://efjbgc.noblogs.org/

https://www.fox4news.com/news/benjamin-song-suspect-immigration-center-attack-previously-sued-over-drag-show-counter-protest


Here is a quote from a far right tweet:

Armed Queers SLC co-hosted educational workshops with Elm Fork branch of the John Brown Gun Club, the trans antifa perpetuators behind the July 4 Alvarado ICE facility shooting.


To see the actual tweet go to: Texas Coalition for Kids and you will see the pinned tweet. I won't link from the site.


Also Sen Mike Lee recently tweeted a poster from Armed Queers of SLC and called it horrifying. (A dark haired woman who was armed LOL)


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If the FBI has concerns about the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers of SLC, they can surveil them. They can surveil just about anyone. However, they can't be designated as terrorist groups! Congress would have to create a law that allows domestic groups to be designated as terrorist groups. There is no such federal law. (States have domestic terrorism laws however) Trump tried to designate antifa as terrorist group in 2020. It didn't happen.


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no such thing...unless he says you're in it of course. the feuhrer has spoken nt msongs Sep 17 #1
Well, I guess, there goes WhiteTara Sep 17 #2
Did the MFer define Antifa or is that left to prosecutors? Think poster above is right, membership is zip. Silent Type Sep 17 #3
They're a real thing, but they are pretty much insignificant or least not worth FBI resources. LeftInTX Thursday #28
Where do I send my donation to Antifa?? lastlib Sep 17 #4
The same place that sends you your George Soros check Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Thursday #22
I'm still waiting for my $5000 Doge check RazorbackExpat Thursday #32
If you go online there is no antifa website kimbutgar Sep 17 #5
He just criminalized my late father. BidenRocks Sep 17 #6
21st Century Don Quixote tonekat Sep 17 #7
They aren't even an organization IronLionZion Sep 17 #8
I found them! lastlib Sep 17 #9
Tell me you're Fascists without saying ... dweller Sep 17 #10
He's throwing crap against the wall Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #11
Trump is also calling for the arrest of Santa Claus SomedayKindaLove Sep 17 #12
Strongly disagree. mahina Thursday #27
Tooth Fairy is looking super suspicious IronLionZion Thursday #37
Breaking news: FiveFifteen Sep 17 #13
There is no "antifa" - how can it be a terrorist organization? FakeNoose Sep 17 #14
Hopefully angrychair Sep 17 #15
Trump's fascist ass is terrified of antifascists! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 17 #16
I guess all three of those kids should be worried. johnnyplankton Sep 17 #17
Obviously, Trump doesn't like anti-fascists because he is pro-fascist n/t AntiFascist Sep 17 #18
Ah! The "major terrorist organization" that doesn't even exist! Wiz Imp Thursday #19
There is no organization named Antifa LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #50
ummmmm moonshinegnomie Thursday #20
Exactly. LeftInTX Thursday #26
On the other hand, the biggest anti-fascist organization ever was the US military in WW II Wiz Imp Thursday #21
Antifa is anti-military. LeftInTX Thursday #25
This has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. Wiz Imp Thursday #56
Several of my uncles fought fascism in WWII, if they were alive they would be designated terrorists by the worst ImNotGod Thursday #23
Antifa is a real thing, but they have shrunk in size since 2020. I think most of moved on to other things LeftInTX Thursday #24
It's notable how little there is about "Antifa" activity after January 2021 muriel_volestrangler Thursday #33
Yes, I noticed! LeftInTX Thursday #34
So, the far right is saying Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers Salt Lake City are LeftInTX Thursday #43
And Goldstein? usonian Thursday #29
Real Life Pictures of ANTIFA. aka anti fascists... June 6th, 1944 and today. Botany Thursday #30
The replies to Nance are so fucking stupid - "they have merch, of course they exist!" muriel_volestrangler Thursday #31
aka any protests or marches against the orange asshole will be labeled Antifa. Javaman Thursday #35
Thought control. That is the game. twodogsbarking Thursday #36
OK, Donny. You can send an official letter of notification to their headquarters at tanyev Thursday #38
I am declaring the Obsidian Order, a terrorist organization, Miguelito Loveless Thursday #39
Again, like all the times before, the REAL terrorist's group calling other groups bluestarone Thursday #40
Trump's full of shit, as usual. oasis Thursday #41
Good luck finding the hideouts and the membership rolls. Aristus Thursday #42
Oh, I think that Trump already has an idea of where this "domestic terrorist organization" is. LudwigPastorius Thursday #57
So Cal Atifa was successfully busted last year, everyone convicted somsai Thursday #44
What do you mean by "busted"? Being anti-fascist is not something you can be "busted" for muriel_volestrangler Thursday #45
physically threatening the judge and prosecutor is a big no no somsai Thursday #46
Yes, I googled. All I found was a judge being nice to Proud Boys about a fight with some Antifa. muriel_volestrangler Thursday #49
Eight Antifa Defendants Sentenced in Pacific Beach Assault Case LeftInTX Thursday #47
The MaddowBlog-The unsettling consequence of Trump designating antifa as a 'major terrorist organization' LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #48
will he go after the IWW next? DBoon Thursday #51
This is to establish a predicate for... Wuddles440 Thursday #52
Psst. Hey Trump, Antifa is based om the dakside of the Moon. GreenWave Thursday #53
I am certain Hitler also despised the RAF UpInArms Thursday #54
All of us should put a little sticker on our door. Captain Zero Thursday #55
If you are anti-AntiFa, then you are a fascist LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #58
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