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pat_k

(12,306 posts)
33. Oh, remembered who the interview was with.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:05 PM
Sep 17

Wajahat Ali interviewing Stuart Stevens. FWIW, it was a good one:



It was Wajahat who said "Be proud of who hates you" in a short bit on giving up the idea that you will EVER get these people to vote for you. There is a great bit about Democrats' disastrous obsession with winning over “Chet” (stereotypical MAGA male) around 16 minutes in.

A few suggestions from Stuart:

Wake up each morning and say it: We're right, they're wrong.

Call them what they are: Racists.

Condemn the appointment of Hegseth -- the town drunk -- call out the people who enabled that craziness.

Point out truths: If a year ago they had said we would have masked men chasing gardeners through Brentwood with a budget larger than the Marines; that there will be armed troops in cities, they would have been dismissed as crazy. (Me: If what is happening was not tolerable -- if it was beyond belief then -- people need to be reminded. Point out "If you had heard..." )

My point on Spencer Cox and others, like folks at Braver Angels, who are working to bridge the divide while holding to our own views with integrity and clearly rejecting those things that are "red lines" for us, is that when someone is willing to actually talk and engage, they deserve some credit for it in our current climate. Reaching out from the "other side" in a good faith effort to make a connection alone is an act of courage in this insane climate.



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"Get us addicted to outrage" johnnyfins Sep 14 #1
You forgot radio. cstanleytech Sep 15 #15
Cox should stop talking. He may be taken over johnnyfins Sep 14 #2
First ever shooting at a school.. thomski64 Sep 15 #21
"Cox said that although Kirk said "some very inflammatory things" BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 14 #3
Says the hypocritical fucker who vocally wished the shooter was an immigrant. RockRaven Sep 14 #4
Here's The "Prayer" If Anyone Missed It: DrFunkenstein Sep 14 #6
Extend the guy a little grace. pat_k Sep 15 #20
Sorry Mr Cox, no company has figured out how to hack my brain. And get this, no religion has hacked it either! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 14 #5
He doesn't sound all that moderate to me. ananda Sep 14 #7
A couple points pat_k Sep 15 #22
He also, when he was about to give up the mic after doing his bit vanlassie Sep 14 #8
Anyone disagree that X, Meta, TicToc, etc. are conflict entrepeneurs? Ponietz Sep 14 #9
Yes. He is spot on on this. pat_k Sep 15 #24
"every corner" Just Jerome Sep 14 #10
Do you forgive Robinson? Do you recommend Mrs. Kirk forgive the killer? Norrrm Sep 14 #11
In defense of Spencer Cox, pat_k Sep 15 #12
Cox WAS the chair of the National Governor's Association. His tenure ended in July 2024 LeftInTX Sep 15 #13
As someone else posted to another thread, pat_k Sep 15 #19
"Conflict entrepreneur" seems to describe Kirk's career and business plan. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 15 #14
It does indeed. pat_k Sep 15 #23
And, there it is. OldBaldy1701E Sep 15 #16
In Fairness, He Did Call J6 People "Evil" and "Terrorists" DrFunkenstein Sep 15 #17
Further points: pat_k Sep 15 #26
So, I am not familiar with his voting record. OldBaldy1701E Sep 16 #28
Have you looked at the keynote with Wes Moore? pat_k Sep 16 #30
And, again, I do not know this answer. OldBaldy1701E Sep 17 #31
I don't have a tally, but Trump aligned Republicans are often... pat_k Sep 17 #32
Oh, remembered who the interview was with. pat_k Sep 17 #33
P.P.S. pat_k Sep 17 #34
Cool. As I said, I did not know. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 17 #35
I criticize governors who are pushing false information about a suspect. travelingthrulife Sep 15 #18
Yes. Of course EVERYONE should be proceeding with caution about the shooters motives pat_k Sep 15 #27
Does this idiot have plans to run for president in 2028? valleyrogue Sep 15 #25
YOU just lied to the American public about the shooter being a liberal. travelingthrulife Sep 16 #29
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