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Mr. Sparkle

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Wed Apr 2, 2025, 08:50 PM Apr 2

Trump Used Phony Numbers To Justify His Massive Tariffs [View all]

Source: Mediaite.com

On Tuesday, President Donald Trump announced sweeping tariffs on all imports into the U.S. As a starting point, the administration is implementing a baseline tariff of 10% on all foreign goods. He also singled out dozens of countries for higher tariffs. For example, Vietnamese imports were hit with a 46% tariff while the European Union was slapped with a 20% one. Despite the Trump administration’s previous insistences to the contrary, tariffs are paid by businesses that import tariffed goods – not the exporting country. These costs tend to be passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. This is why economists – and even pro-Trump Republicans – have said tariffs are effectively a tax.

Next to each country were two columns. The first was labeled “Tariffs Charged to the U.S.A.” But again, the U.S. does not pay tariffs on U.S. exports tariffed by other countries. The importing entities in those countries do. Moreover, the first column contains a qualifier stating that the “Tariffs Charged to the U.S.A.” account for “currency manipulation and trade barriers.” It is unclear how the Trump administration calculated the alleged manipulation and trade barriers when incorporating them into its already flawed description of “Tariffs Charged to the U.S.A” The second column is labeled “U.S.A. Discounted Reciprocal Tariffs,” which implies that Trump’s tariffs are merely a response to tariffs levied by other countries on U.S. goods and that Trump’s tariffs are “discounted,” as if their imposition were modest.

Looking at the alleged tariffs other countries are supposedly levying on U.S. goods, one might be struck by the exorbitant rates in some cases. For example, if China were really imposing a 67% tariff on U.S. goods or if Vietnam were implementing a 90% tariff on U.S. products, that’s something that likely would have been retaliated against a long time ago. But in fact, these numbers do not represent “tariffs.” Take the E.U. “tariff” on U.S. goods of 39%. In 2024, the U.S. exported $370.2 billion to the E.U., according to the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative. Meanwhile, the U.S. imported $605.8 billion from the E.U. That means the U.S. ran a trade deficit with the E.U. of $235.6 billion.

What the Trump administration seems to have done is taken the deficit ($235.6 billion) and divided it by the total number of imports from the E.U. ($605.8 billion), yielding a figure of 38.89%, which the administration rounded up to 39% and called a “Tariff to the U.S.A.” imposed by the E.U. But obviously, that is not a tariff. Similarly, the U.S. ran a trade deficit with Norway of $2 billion in 2024 as the U.S. imported $6.6 billion in Norwegian goods. Hence, in the Trump administration’s calculation ($2 billion divided by $6.6 billion = 0.30), Norway has a 30% “tariff” on U.S. goods. Moreover, not even countries with which the U.S. has a trade surplus were spared. For example, in 2024, the U.S. had a trade surplus of $11.9 billion with the U.K., which Trump’s list claims had imposed a 10% “tariff” on U.S. goods. The same goes for Honduras, which ran a trade deficit with the U.S., which accused to Central American country of hitting American goods with a 10% “tariff.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-used-phony-numbers-to-justify-his-massive-tariffs/

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He just makes shit up. bamagal62 Apr 2 #1
Still unpunished felonious traitordump's reality-teevee BS Justice matters. Apr 2 #9
Always has. Why is the MSM treating this like it's some shocking reveal instead of making that simple point? Karasu Apr 2 #19
Paul Krugman thinks so, too. surfered Apr 2 #2
It's a Trump chart Turbineguy Apr 2 #3
Yeah, his Vietnam numbers caught my eye so I looked it up on the International Trade Administration's sinkingfeeling Apr 2 #4
The most charitable explanation is that these are some of the stupidest people on the planet. unblock Apr 2 #5
This is for regurgitation on their media and social media underpants Apr 2 #7
The felon's multiple fake tariffs on islands distract from his fake "economic emergency." ancianita Apr 2 #6
will have now... Justice matters. Apr 2 #10
The emergency is the one he caused Qutzupalotl Apr 2 #11
Right. Thanks. All while another body of govt has to officially call it out (purely for KY's interests) ancianita Apr 2 #13
The author did some good math to explain the bad math underpants Apr 2 #8
What's the rend game Donman Apr 2 #12
It's a grift. ... littlemissmartypants Apr 3 #20
Extortion krkaufman Apr 3 #23
Greed/Power is never satisfied Donman Apr 3 #24
I knew it as soon as I saw that crap. Scrivener7 Apr 2 #14
He may be entitled to his own opinion, Bayard Apr 2 #15
Where will all this new tax revenue be going? LudwigPastorius Apr 2 #16
Don't forget the "sieg heil" gesture for Elon's photo. calimary Apr 2 #18
Dear God, he just KEEPS ON DICKING WITH PEOPLE!!! calimary Apr 2 #17
But he won the election fair and square Blue Owl Apr 3 #21
The formula used by trump is very stupid LetMyPeopleVote Apr 3 #22
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