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33. I think the press needs to stop taking his comments out of context.

Sat Mar 29, 2025, 01:46 PM

Mar 29

They won't, of course, because it makes good clickbait. But Newsom has been one of the strongest Democrats over the last few years in his support of the party and also a pioneer of LBGTQ rights. While appearing on Bill Maher is probably not the best place to be since Maher these days is so freaking full of himself, he's saying what should be said. Don't believe for a minute he has turned conservative. He's a staunch liberal. He wants this party to recover.

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California Governor Newsom Says the Democratic Brand Is 'Toxic' [View all] Polybius Mar 29 OP

Post removed Post removed Mar 29 #1

What the hell Traildogbob Mar 29 #4

Becoming a Repug at warp speed... red alert! red alert! NotHardly Mar 29 #58

Could he even get re-elected Governor if he was eligible?! Somehow I doubt it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 1 #133

Oh come on Polybius Mar 29 #9

Perhaps you haven't noticed... Think. Again. Mar 29 #11

Yes, I'm not disagreeing with that Polybius Mar 29 #12

"He's far from a Nazi." LudwigPastorius Mar 29 #76

I have no idea who that is Polybius Mar 30 #88

That's Charlie Kirk. LudwigPastorius Mar 30 #93

Post removed Post removed Mar 29 #86

I can't believe the amout of people calling Gavin a Nazi in this thread Polybius Mar 30 #89

collaborator? A Vichy Democrat? /nt thought crime Mar 30 #99

Nixon Was Fascism 1.0 -- Bush & Bush Was Fascism 2.0 MayReasonRule Mar 29 #29

Nixon was a criminal Polybius Mar 29 #45

History Demonstrates That Silence Is Complicity MayReasonRule Mar 29 #47

I wouldn't call them Nazis either... I'd call them fucking Nazis!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #79

Yeah sure Polybius Mar 30 #90

MAGA is worse Cirsium Mar 29 #85

Oh Gavin, Democrats want to inflict universal healthcare on population Walleye Mar 29 #2

He's done that and more in his career. ificandream Mar 29 #36

Gavin was sposed to be a "Super Pol." I liked him but he's now holdin the back of the line of potential 2028 candidates. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 1 #132

What is toxic is having been married UpInArms Mar 29 #3

I second this. FalloutShelter Mar 29 #19

If you mean Guilfoyle, she was a liberal before she turned stupid. ificandream Mar 29 #37

Nah ... UpInArms Mar 29 #50

And he cheated on her madville Mar 29 #67

BS! Sorry not sorry Granny Blue Mar 31 #128

I know I'm done with him... ZERO chance he gets the 2028 nomination, at least not for the Democratic Party!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #82

Agree....that fucker is toast. He just DeSantis's himself AND much faster. Bengus81 Mar 30 #102

welp, so much for thinking things would be better here in CA FirstLight Mar 29 #5

Oh!!!!!the Gargoyle toxins got him Traildogbob Mar 29 #6

If you poll people subjected to propaganda BootinUp Mar 29 #7

Wait, wut? no_hypocrisy Mar 29 #8

That's not what he's saying. It's the public's attitude toward the party he's talking about. ificandream Mar 29 #38

That's stile over substance. no_hypocrisy Mar 29 #40

Bernie Sanders isn't a Dem. maxsolomon Mar 31 #124

Wow, has he misread the room! highplainsdem Mar 29 #10

That's a major understatement!! Watch for Newsom backpedal in 3... 2... 1... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #81

Big mistake, Gav. ms liberty Mar 29 #13

On edit..Charlie Kirk was his second big mistake. First was raising the flags Bengus81 Mar 30 #103

Jeez. He can't stop shooting himself in the foot these days, can he? Scrivener7 Mar 29 #14

It's crazy... why throw your base under a bus?! Makes no sense!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 31 #115

Our leaders, if they were smart, would be speaking of nothing but our strengths. Scrivener7 Mar 31 #117

Why? For the 30 peices of silver, of course Granny Blue Mar 31 #127

Showing his true colors Blue Full Moon Mar 29 #15

Guilty. I don't consort with nazis. CountMyVote4Reality Mar 29 #16

No comment. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 29 #17

Gavin Newsom's messaging is toxic Quiet Em Mar 29 #18

i am so disgusted by my governor kimbutgar Mar 29 #20

So you do a poll about Democratic Party favorability House of Roberts Mar 29 #21

...and the solution, of course, is to "move to the center"... regnaD kciN Mar 29 #30

Appeal to bigots and theocrats and it will become toxic to me. Solly Mack Mar 29 #22

Gavin, Gavin, Gavin. You've just cut your political throat, you aging pretty boy, you. hedda_foil Mar 29 #23

Agreed, the only way I'd vote for him at this point is if he pulls off a MIRACLE to become our party's nominee in 2028. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 29 #84

It's only toxic because of people like Newsom Nigrum Cattus Mar 29 #24

Bullshit. kacekwl Mar 29 #25

Not sure about this. I'll wait until Californians decide. bluestarone Mar 29 #26

Yay! More trans bashing. Oneironaut Mar 29 #27

I hope that I will be n the majority Lifeafter70 Mar 29 #83

And just like that...Poof! Zorro Mar 29 #28

As a Californian, I'm disappointed. Appeasement is not the way forward; resistance is the way forward. Magoo48 Mar 29 #31

Gavin Newsom is a "Toxic Sellout". I expect him to announce he is a Repug any day now. flashman13 Mar 29 #32

He might but MAGOTS won't vote for him......... Bengus81 Mar 30 #106

You are absolutely right that MAGAts won't vote for him. flashman13 Mar 30 #112

I think the press needs to stop taking his comments out of context. ificandream Mar 29 #33

NYT has a long history of attacking dems GoreWon2000 Mar 29 #72

True journalism is not a fan club. ificandream Mar 29 #75

NYT has long ignored actual facts GoreWon2000 Mar 31 #121

Name one. ificandream Mar 31 #122

W's claim that he was a "compassionate conservative" GoreWon2000 Mar 31 #123

If Bush was actually quoted as saying it, the Times is likely to report it. There's nothing wrong there. ificandream Mar 31 #125

Gore was attacked for Granny Blue Apr 1 #129

I agree about Gore over Bush would have been better. ificandream Apr 1 #130

"Lockbox" was the big joke on SNL, for late night comics. betsuni Apr 1 #131

What are you reading now? ificandream Thursday #135

You couldn't be more wrong GoreWon2000 Apr 2 #134

"The Democratic brand is TOXIC" is a quote from him. Not taken out of context. Bengus81 Mar 30 #108

He met with poo poo king just before he changed course. GreenWave Mar 29 #34

Yeah. Did he get Lindsay Grahamed? LuvLoogie Mar 29 #35

I guess he's joining Fetterman now, Butterflylady Mar 29 #39

He's toxic wryter2000 Mar 29 #41

People hate Democrats more than open fascists. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 29 #42

Nope, what they hate are women. efhmc Mar 29 #55

I believe that it is the relentless right wing hate media since the mid '80's Tumbulu Mar 29 #69

Harris lost by 2M votes out of 152 MILLION cast. The Dem brand is not toxic Bengus81 Mar 30 #111

I read a title from a post that said he found common ground with Charlie Kirk.... wolfie001 Mar 29 #43

Gleeful Prairie Gates Mar 29 #44

FIFY Ray Bruns Mar 29 #46

I hate to say it, but I can't argue with the general conclusion. snot Mar 29 #48

Democrats are only mad at the party for not fighting back Ritabert Mar 29 #49

Exactly GoreWon2000 Mar 29 #71

This. BlueKota Mar 31 #126

Not to me DownriverDem Mar 29 #51

I wonder what it costs to buy a US governor? Irish_Dem Mar 29 #52

I want Pete Buttigieg as the future leader of the Dems True Dough Mar 29 #53

Pete over Newsom is a no brainer!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 31 #118

Glad to see that DU administrators seem to be loosening up on Newsom critiques. Paladin Mar 29 #54

It costs way too much to live in Calif. CountAllVotes Mar 29 #56

Depends how you say it Polybius Mar 29 #59

He is Moving to the Right PCB66 Mar 29 #57

I believe the coined term is "triangulation". LudwigPastorius Mar 29 #80

I'd like some specific examples of this "talking down to" and judgementalism that isn't equally egregious on the right SpankMe Mar 29 #60

Maybe we should be polling college students and high school students. This will tell you what the mood Pisces Mar 29 #61

The Newsome Brand is becoming toxic IbogaProject Mar 29 #62

No, it wasn't. Don't think like a Republican. travelingthrulife Mar 31 #120

And I thought him playing patty cake with Kirk was disgusting. Phoenix61 Mar 29 #63

Post removed Post removed Mar 29 #64

Huh, what? Dems just need better MEMES and EMOJIS ! nt Exp Mar 29 #65

I would Rebl2 Mar 29 #66

What a pathetic sob he turned out to be. ananda Mar 29 #68

Guy who married Guilfolye says what? Wild blueberry Mar 29 #70

Why post something like this? It does not help Democrats at all and it just feeds the trolls that hate them. cstanleytech Mar 29 #73

Excuse me? Polybius Mar 29 #74

I'm confused, not angry. There is a difference in case you were unaware. cstanleytech Mar 30 #95

Both aren't good reasons to be against the posting Polybius Mar 30 #96

I get your concern but this needs to be discussed ificandream Mar 29 #77

"He criticized Democrats for...resorting to 'cancel culture' to ostracize people whose views they find abhorrent." LudwigPastorius Mar 29 #78

Cancel culture was just a 2020-2021 bizarre faze, and the left has abandoned it Polybius Mar 30 #91

I don't think Cancel Culture was ever real tbh. Oneironaut Mar 30 #97

All this says to me is Newsom is a selfish asshole tulipsandroses Mar 29 #87

Same as Bernie Sanders saying candidates should run as Independents but for different reasons. betsuni Mar 30 #92

I've supported Newsom .... Bread and Circuses Mar 30 #94

Republicans are good at finding the most unpopular policies supported by some Democrats and then painting them as key andym Mar 30 #98

Glad I learned way,way early that this asshat is NO Democrat. But now that the cat is Bengus81 Mar 30 #100

What has become toxic... AntiFascist Mar 30 #101

Sounds serious Torchlight Mar 30 #104

Life in la la land struggle4progress Mar 30 #105

Why do I bet he runs third party and gets the Republican installed again the next time? Vinca Mar 30 #107

I doubt he'd play that second fiddle role. He wants the top slot in a party that could win Bengus81 Mar 30 #109

I think his next move Keepthesoulalive Mar 30 #110

I really wonder if his next move is even related to Democratic politics cadoman Mar 31 #116

I just can't with him JustAnotherGen Mar 30 #113

Senator Murphy wrote something similar in the Atlantic andym Mar 30 #114

It's like this thread aspired to prove his point Sympthsical Mar 31 #119

no, not really Skittles Thursday #136