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William Seger

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21. We've given a total of $69.2B in aid to Ukraine since 2014

Reply to NJCher (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2025, 08:53 PM

Feb 21

... and His MAGAsty was demanding $500B repayment while "negotiating" with Russia, without Ukraine or NATO, to end Putin's invasion by giving him everything he wanted — for now? I do believe the gaslighting must be getting to me; I must be going nuts or soon will.

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White House and Ukraine Close In on Deal For Mineral Rights [View all] NJCher Feb 21 OP

And Russia? Lovie777 Feb 21 #1

I will paraphrase the rest of the story NJCher Feb 21 #5

No they are not. Ukraine is not so stupid as to comply with the Orange King NotHardly Feb 22 #34

Mineral Rights bromeando Feb 21 #2

That and fair market value as well as U.S. support to help them join NATO. cstanleytech Feb 21 #4

where are you getting this? NJCher Feb 21 #6

Providing they are getting fair market value and a further agreement to repel the Russian invaders I'm ok with it. cstanleytech Feb 21 #3

A previous draft had clauses effectively giving the US control over who could make use of the resources, Emrys Feb 21 #29

Does Ukraine recoup their lands? Lovie777 Feb 21 #7

TSF"s words are meaningless. I will await bronxiteforever Feb 21 #8

AGREE! Why would anybody trust these traitors? bluestarone Feb 21 #10

The update to the story makes this very unclear bronxiteforever Feb 21 #15

Here's from a story published by WSJ an hour ago, around 5 p.m. NJCher Feb 21 #9

"The key is to work out the details." BeyondGeography Feb 21 #11

ahhh NJCher Feb 21 #12

Because ManBaby needs a win BeyondGeography Feb 21 #16

He's still a loser no matter what he gets from Ukraine Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 22 #33

That timing is weird and concerning with a Putin bronxiteforever Feb 21 #17

So contracts can be given to Trump connected people JI7 Feb 21 #20

NATO and EU support.... Lovie777 Feb 21 #13

First demands were worse than the Treaty of Versailles CNYHarris Feb 21 #14

"I told you to investigate Biden. Now you have to pay." Marcuse Feb 21 #18

update NJCher Feb 21 #19

We've given a total of $69.2B in aid to Ukraine since 2014 William Seger Feb 21 #21

This is a travesty. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 21 #22

Blackmail is still blackmail............ turbinetree Feb 21 #23

just checked for updates NJCher Feb 21 #24

I know Ukraine is sick to death of this war, Bayard Feb 21 #25

Interesting .... from the article: Diamond_Dog Feb 21 #26

Have Ukraine admitted in NATO and then sign, if they must, but not until the ink is dry Deuxcents Feb 21 #27

It would seem those rights would end if Russia were to take the country over. surfered Feb 21 #28

If Trump walks away with Ukraine's resources, all that's going to do is embolden him. Karasu Feb 21 #30

Bad Deal? FB47243 Feb 21 #31

Missed your post and just posted the full NYT article here ... cliffside Feb 22 #32

DON'T DO THIS ZELENSKY 4catsmom Feb 22 #35

I hope they know whatever agreement dump gives them mdbl Feb 22 #36

That's why they should agree to it and balk at it when it is convenient for Ukraine. Ray Bruns Feb 22 #37