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BumRushDaShow

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48. How a state does their audit process
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jun 2024

would determine whether there was "hand counting" or "machine audit".

The arguments that were circulating about certain voting systems, like Diebold, was because of this -

Kim Zetter Security
Sep 3, 2009 1:50 PM
Diebold Unloads Beleaguered Voting Machine Division



It took about three years but Diebold has finally managed to get out of the election business. The company announced Thursday that Premier Election Solutions, Diebold's beleaguered voting machine division, has been acquired by Election Systems and Software (ES&S).

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Diebold, an Ohio-based maker of ATMs and security systems, purchased its elections business from Global Election Systems in January 2002, just as Congress was passing the Help America Vote Act, which allocated billions to states to purchase new voting machines. Diebold Elections Systems, however, barely had time to bask in the flow of federal funds before it ran headlong into controversy in 2003 when Diebold Inc. CEO Walden O'Dell, a fundraiser for former President George Bush, wrote in a letter to Republican supporters that the company was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president" in 2004.

The company also became a target of voting activists that year after it inadvertently released its source code on an FTP server, and computer scientists who examined it discovered numerous security problems with the system.

Criticism of the company and its machines remained constant as Diebold voting machines experienced numerous problems in election districts around the country, and incidents of company officials applying uncertified patches to machines were exposed. The most recent problem with the company's system occurred in the 2008 presidential election in Humboldt County, California, when Diebold's tabulation software randomly deleted nearly 200 votes. An examination of the system revealed that its audit logs failed to record significant events, such as someone deleting votes from the system; it also contained a delete button that allowed anyone with access to the system to erase the audit logs.

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https://www.wired.com/2009/09/diebold-sells/




Head in sand?

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This is a very dumb move LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #1
It should take five minutes to count them. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #7
Fewer than the combined fingers and toes of the 3 election officials. Wonder Why Jun 2024 #20
No, no, no. That's North Dakota. Angleae Jun 2024 #43
Paranoid................................. Lovie777 Jun 2024 #2
I realize they are much smaller counties than mine, but some of our ballots are three pages long! CrispyQ Jun 2024 #3
Yeah...Helen and George from the liquor store.. ret5hd Jun 2024 #4
LOL. That would make a great movie segment. 🎥 -nt CrispyQ Jun 2024 #8
Helen: ret5hd Jun 2024 #11
Won't say anything, I'm too nice to our farmers and ranchers out there in the Dakotas. Being that things probably SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #5
It is more work for the election workers. mysteryowl Jun 2024 #6
Dare I say it? "Hand job?" mpcamb Jun 2024 #50
Their elections, their call. Igel Jun 2024 #9
Who decides WHO the counters are? bluestarone Jun 2024 #10
There is pressure here for hand counting too. That is fine in a county with 5000 voters yellowdogintexas Jun 2024 #12
Here in Philly BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #13
that requirement to wait for Election Day to start with the mail-ins just blew me away yellowdogintexas Jun 2024 #37
It's done on purpose BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #39
They have not thought this through AverageOldGuy Jun 2024 #14
If the precincts are small enough, hand counting is no problem questionseverything Jun 2024 #15
Idiots. ...nt 2naSalit Jun 2024 #16
The stupidity is remarkable. SarahD Jun 2024 #17
I spent a lot of my life in manufacturing. Scruffy1 Jun 2024 #18
This could be a very good thing LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #19
"I don't get why a larger country can't do this too." BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #23
Break it down into precincts small enough to count overnight. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #25
Part of the issue here is the long day leftieNanner Jun 2024 #26
Counters and poll workers do not have to be the same people. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #28
In 2020, Philly had 1703 "Divisions" which are the same as "precincts" BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #30
Just a lot of excuses. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #32
"Many other western democracies in Europe have even more population density." BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #34
density not total LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #36
"Density" is irrelevant BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #38
Another big difference BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #40
Yes, the amount of boxes to check is a big difference. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #41
To address BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #42
Images of the Flori-Duh recount and hanging chads come to mind. 4lbs Jun 2024 #21
Actually if the entire state of Florida had been hand counted questionseverything Jun 2024 #31
Yeah, a MAGA county in AZ did a experiment with hand counting SpankMe Jun 2024 #22
Might need six people to count each ballot. Old Crank Jun 2024 #24
Gosh well all be in the edge of our seats awaiting the results. underpants Jun 2024 #27
STATES run elections. Can a COUNTY do this on its own? Grins Jun 2024 #29
If the state allows it. Actually counties "run" and administer elections LeftInTX Jun 2024 #35
Call me paranoid, but I also worry about machines being rigged. NH Ethylene Jun 2024 #33
Before criticizing South Dakota... brooklynite Jun 2024 #44
The "Help America Vote Act" required that machines have a "paper trail" BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #46
Yes, but I wasn't demanding hand counting. brooklynite Jun 2024 #47
How a state does their audit process BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #48
How does pointing out how machines can be manipulated help your no-hand-counting argument? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #54
Here we go BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #55
Actually judge rawl did make that claim about the paperless machines questionseverything Jun 2024 #51
They should do a public demonstration of hand counting. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #45
Here is your example BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #49
My experience in just managing ballots ga_girl Jun 2024 #52
Think anyone would ever throw out votes they don't like? dlk Jun 2024 #53
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