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In reply to the discussion: In a rare step, 3 South Dakota counties are set to vote on counting ballots by hand [View all]BumRushDaShow
(161,376 posts)48. How a state does their audit process
would determine whether there was "hand counting" or "machine audit".
The arguments that were circulating about certain voting systems, like Diebold, was because of this -
Kim Zetter Security
Sep 3, 2009 1:50 PM
Diebold Unloads Beleaguered Voting Machine Division
It took about three years but Diebold has finally managed to get out of the election business. The company announced Thursday that Premier Election Solutions, Diebold's beleaguered voting machine division, has been acquired by Election Systems and Software (ES&S).
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Diebold, an Ohio-based maker of ATMs and security systems, purchased its elections business from Global Election Systems in January 2002, just as Congress was passing the Help America Vote Act, which allocated billions to states to purchase new voting machines. Diebold Elections Systems, however, barely had time to bask in the flow of federal funds before it ran headlong into controversy in 2003 when Diebold Inc. CEO Walden O'Dell, a fundraiser for former President George Bush, wrote in a letter to Republican supporters that the company was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president" in 2004.
The company also became a target of voting activists that year after it inadvertently released its source code on an FTP server, and computer scientists who examined it discovered numerous security problems with the system.
Criticism of the company and its machines remained constant as Diebold voting machines experienced numerous problems in election districts around the country, and incidents of company officials applying uncertified patches to machines were exposed. The most recent problem with the company's system occurred in the 2008 presidential election in Humboldt County, California, when Diebold's tabulation software randomly deleted nearly 200 votes. An examination of the system revealed that its audit logs failed to record significant events, such as someone deleting votes from the system; it also contained a delete button that allowed anyone with access to the system to erase the audit logs.
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https://www.wired.com/2009/09/diebold-sells/
Sep 3, 2009 1:50 PM
Diebold Unloads Beleaguered Voting Machine Division
It took about three years but Diebold has finally managed to get out of the election business. The company announced Thursday that Premier Election Solutions, Diebold's beleaguered voting machine division, has been acquired by Election Systems and Software (ES&S).
(snip)
Diebold, an Ohio-based maker of ATMs and security systems, purchased its elections business from Global Election Systems in January 2002, just as Congress was passing the Help America Vote Act, which allocated billions to states to purchase new voting machines. Diebold Elections Systems, however, barely had time to bask in the flow of federal funds before it ran headlong into controversy in 2003 when Diebold Inc. CEO Walden O'Dell, a fundraiser for former President George Bush, wrote in a letter to Republican supporters that the company was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president" in 2004.
The company also became a target of voting activists that year after it inadvertently released its source code on an FTP server, and computer scientists who examined it discovered numerous security problems with the system.
Criticism of the company and its machines remained constant as Diebold voting machines experienced numerous problems in election districts around the country, and incidents of company officials applying uncertified patches to machines were exposed. The most recent problem with the company's system occurred in the 2008 presidential election in Humboldt County, California, when Diebold's tabulation software randomly deleted nearly 200 votes. An examination of the system revealed that its audit logs failed to record significant events, such as someone deleting votes from the system; it also contained a delete button that allowed anyone with access to the system to erase the audit logs.
(snip)
https://www.wired.com/2009/09/diebold-sells/

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In a rare step, 3 South Dakota counties are set to vote on counting ballots by hand [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Jun 2024
OP
I realize they are much smaller counties than mine, but some of our ballots are three pages long!
CrispyQ
Jun 2024
#3
Won't say anything, I'm too nice to our farmers and ranchers out there in the Dakotas. Being that things probably
SWBTATTReg
Jun 2024
#5
There is pressure here for hand counting too. That is fine in a county with 5000 voters
yellowdogintexas
Jun 2024
#12
that requirement to wait for Election Day to start with the mail-ins just blew me away
yellowdogintexas
Jun 2024
#37
"Many other western democracies in Europe have even more population density."
BumRushDaShow
Jun 2024
#34
How does pointing out how machines can be manipulated help your no-hand-counting argument?
LiberalLovinLug
Jun 2024
#54
Actually judge rawl did make that claim about the paperless machines
questionseverything
Jun 2024
#51