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BumRushDaShow

(161,475 posts)
39. It's done on purpose
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 07:31 AM
Jun 2024

and both blue counties AND deep red counties in PA have BEGGED the state Legislature to modify the law to allow for pre-canvassing the ballots so they can be counted/tabulated on election day.

When Democrats recaptured the PA state House in 2022 (which the "polls" did not see coming), they have started attempting to move legislation that never saw the light of day when the GOP controlled the chamber. One such bill deals with the mail ballot issue -

Pennsylvania state House advances bill to give counties more time to count mail ballots

by Carter Walker of Votebeat | May 2, 2024



HARRISBURG — Pennsylvania House Democrats are again pushing to allow counties time to process mail ballots before the day of the election. But the effort appears doomed because of the Senate GOP majority’s insistence on pairing the measure with an expanded voter ID law.

A House bill passed Wednesday in a party line vote would allow counties up to seven days before election day to open ballot envelopes and run ballots through scanning machines, though results would still be tabulated on the day of the election. Currently, counties cannot begin processing mail ballots until the morning of the election, which means counties with large numbers of mail ballots may need additional days to finish counting and report complete results.

The extra time for the process, known as pre-canvassing, has been a priority for Democratic lawmakers this session and has drawn bipartisan support at the county level. But efforts to cut a deal with Republicans have repeatedly fallen apart, a fate that seems likely to repeat, even though this year’s bill is much more narrowly tailored than previous measures.

“I believe this is the time, given that it is a presidential year and no one wants to go through the conspiracy theories,” said Rep. Scott Conklin, (D., Centre), the bill’s prime sponsor. “This alone will clean up 99 percent of what the public is worried about.”

(snip)

https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2024/05/precanvassing-mail-ballots-2024-election-pennsylvania-legislature/


The GOP still controls the PA Senate and that is where this will go to die.

When we mail the ballots (addressed to the city), they are run through, unopened, some kind of scanner that will scan the barcode/QR code to note receipt of the ballot and record it. That info is made available to the state as well as the local Ward/Division, and an email is generated to confirm receipt and to basically say "you're done" (unless some problem is found on that outer envelope that needs to be corrected - and then that is a whole other process of "curing", which has been a PITA because that was not part of the original state law so counties came up with their own ordinances for it).

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This is a very dumb move LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #1
It should take five minutes to count them. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #7
Fewer than the combined fingers and toes of the 3 election officials. Wonder Why Jun 2024 #20
No, no, no. That's North Dakota. Angleae Jun 2024 #43
Paranoid................................. Lovie777 Jun 2024 #2
I realize they are much smaller counties than mine, but some of our ballots are three pages long! CrispyQ Jun 2024 #3
Yeah...Helen and George from the liquor store.. ret5hd Jun 2024 #4
LOL. That would make a great movie segment. 🎥 -nt CrispyQ Jun 2024 #8
Helen: ret5hd Jun 2024 #11
Won't say anything, I'm too nice to our farmers and ranchers out there in the Dakotas. Being that things probably SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #5
It is more work for the election workers. mysteryowl Jun 2024 #6
Dare I say it? "Hand job?" mpcamb Jun 2024 #50
Their elections, their call. Igel Jun 2024 #9
Who decides WHO the counters are? bluestarone Jun 2024 #10
There is pressure here for hand counting too. That is fine in a county with 5000 voters yellowdogintexas Jun 2024 #12
Here in Philly BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #13
that requirement to wait for Election Day to start with the mail-ins just blew me away yellowdogintexas Jun 2024 #37
It's done on purpose BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #39
They have not thought this through AverageOldGuy Jun 2024 #14
If the precincts are small enough, hand counting is no problem questionseverything Jun 2024 #15
Idiots. ...nt 2naSalit Jun 2024 #16
The stupidity is remarkable. SarahD Jun 2024 #17
I spent a lot of my life in manufacturing. Scruffy1 Jun 2024 #18
This could be a very good thing LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #19
"I don't get why a larger country can't do this too." BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #23
Break it down into precincts small enough to count overnight. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #25
Part of the issue here is the long day leftieNanner Jun 2024 #26
Counters and poll workers do not have to be the same people. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #28
In 2020, Philly had 1703 "Divisions" which are the same as "precincts" BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #30
Just a lot of excuses. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #32
"Many other western democracies in Europe have even more population density." BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #34
density not total LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #36
"Density" is irrelevant BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #38
Another big difference BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #40
Yes, the amount of boxes to check is a big difference. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #41
To address BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #42
Images of the Flori-Duh recount and hanging chads come to mind. 4lbs Jun 2024 #21
Actually if the entire state of Florida had been hand counted questionseverything Jun 2024 #31
Yeah, a MAGA county in AZ did a experiment with hand counting SpankMe Jun 2024 #22
Might need six people to count each ballot. Old Crank Jun 2024 #24
Gosh well all be in the edge of our seats awaiting the results. underpants Jun 2024 #27
STATES run elections. Can a COUNTY do this on its own? Grins Jun 2024 #29
If the state allows it. Actually counties "run" and administer elections LeftInTX Jun 2024 #35
Call me paranoid, but I also worry about machines being rigged. NH Ethylene Jun 2024 #33
Before criticizing South Dakota... brooklynite Jun 2024 #44
The "Help America Vote Act" required that machines have a "paper trail" BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #46
Yes, but I wasn't demanding hand counting. brooklynite Jun 2024 #47
How a state does their audit process BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #48
How does pointing out how machines can be manipulated help your no-hand-counting argument? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2024 #54
Here we go BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #55
Actually judge rawl did make that claim about the paperless machines questionseverything Jun 2024 #51
They should do a public demonstration of hand counting. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #45
Here is your example BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #49
My experience in just managing ballots ga_girl Jun 2024 #52
Think anyone would ever throw out votes they don't like? dlk Jun 2024 #53
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