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MayReasonRule

(3,907 posts)
61. What To Expect?
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 05:27 PM
Dec 2023

If they take it up after the DC circuit court denies trumps baseless claims they're clearly delaying and stonewalling. If they let the DC COA ruling stand, they are wiping their hands clean of trump.


First of all, let me congratulate Senator Specter and Senator Leahy for moving the process of confirming the nomination of Judge Roberts along with such civility, a civility that I believe speaks well of the Senate.


Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us.

Having said that, the decision with respect to Judge Roberts' nomination has not been an easy one for me to make. As some of you know, I have not only argued cases before appellate courts but for 10 years was a member of the University of Chicago Law School faculty and taught courses in constitutional law. Part of the culture of the University of Chicago Law School faculty is to maintain a sense of collegiality between those people who hold different views. What engenders respect is not the particular outcome that a legal scholar arrives at but, rather, the intellectual rigor and honesty with which he or she arrives at a decision.


Given that background, I am sorely tempted to vote for Judge Roberts based on my study of his resume, his conduct during the hearings, and a conversation I had with him yesterday afternoon.


There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge. He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view. It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law. He couldn't have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law, and it became apparent to me in our conversation that he does, in fact, deeply respect the basic precepts that go into deciding 95 percent of the cases that come before the Federal court -- adherence to precedence, a certain modesty in reading statutes and constitutional text, a respect for procedural regularity, and an impartiality in presiding over the adversarial system. All of these characteristics make me want to vote for Judge Roberts.


The problem I face -- a problem that has been voiced by some of my other colleagues, both those who are voting for Mr. Roberts and those who are voting against Mr. Roberts -- is that while adherence to legal precedent and rules of statutory or constitutional construction will dispose of 95 percent of the cases that come before a court, so that both a Scalia and a Ginsburg will arrive at the same place most of the time on those 95 percent of the cases -- what matters on the Supreme Court is those 5 percent of cases that are truly difficult. In those cases, adherence to precedent and rules of construction and interpretation will only get you through the 25th mile of the marathon. That last mile can only be determined on the basis of one's deepest values, one's core concerns, one's broader perspectives on how the world works, and the depth and breadth of one's empathy.

In those 5 percent of hard cases, the constitutional text will not be directly on point. The language of the statute will not be perfectly clear. Legal process alone will not lead you to a rule of decision. In those circumstances, your decisions about whether affirmative action is an appropriate response to the history of discrimination in this country or whether a general right of privacy encompasses a more specific right of women to control their reproductive decisions or whether the commerce clause empowers Congress to speak on those issues of broad national concern that may be only tangentially related to what is easily defined as interstate commerce, whether a person who is disabled has the right to be accommodated so they can work alongside those who are nondisabled -- in those difficult cases, the critical ingredient is supplied by what is in the judge's heart.

I talked to Judge Roberts about this. Judge Roberts confessed that, unlike maybe professional politicians, it is not easy for him to talk about his values and his deeper feelings. That is not how he is trained. He did say he doesn't like bullies and has always viewed the law as a way of evening out the playing field between the strong and the weak.


I was impressed with that statement because I view the law in much the same way. The problem I had is that when I examined Judge Roberts' record and history of public service, it is my personal estimation that he has far more often used his formidable skills on behalf of the strong in opposition to the weak. In his work in the White House and the Solicitor General's Office, he seemed to have consistently sided with those who were dismissive of efforts to eradicate the remnants of racial discrimination in our political process. In these same positions, he seemed dismissive of the concerns that it is harder to make it in this world and in this economy when you are a woman rather than a man.


I want to take Judge Roberts at his word that he doesn't like bullies and he sees the law and the Court as a means of evening the playing field between the strong and the weak. But given the gravity of the position to which he will undoubtedly ascend and the gravity of the decisions in which he will undoubtedly participate during his tenure on the Court, I ultimately have to give more weight to his deeds and the overarching political philosophy that he appears to have shared with those in power than to the assuring words that he provided me in our meeting.

The bottom line is this: I will be voting against John Roberts' nomination. I do so with considerable reticence. I hope that I am wrong. I hope that this reticence on my part proves unjustified and that Judge Roberts will show himself to not only be an outstanding legal thinker but also someone who upholds the Court's historic role as a check on the majoritarian impulses of the executive branch and the legislative branch. I hope that he will recognize who the weak are and who the strong are in our society. I hope that his jurisprudence is one that stands up to the bullies of all ideological stripes.


Let me conclude with just one more comment about this confirmation process. I was deeply disturbed by some statements that were made by largely Democratic advocacy groups when ranking member Senator Leahy announced that he would support Judge Roberts. Although the scales have tipped in a different direction for me, I am deeply admiring of the work and the thought that Senator Leahy has put into making his decision. The knee-jerk unbending and what I consider to be unfair attacks on Senator Leahy's motives were unjustified. Unfortunately, both parties have fallen victim to this kind of pressure.


I believe every Senator on the other side of the aisle, if they were honest, would acknowledge that the same unyielding, unbending, dogmatic approach to judicial confirmation has in large part been responsible for the kind of poisonous atmosphere that exists in this Chamber regarding judicial nominations. It is tempting, then, for us on this side of the aisle to go tit for tat.


But what I would like to see is for all of us to recognize as we move forward to the next nominee that in fact the issues that are confronted by the Supreme Court are difficult issues. That is why they get up to the Supreme Court. The issues facing the Court are rarely black and white, and all advocacy groups who have a legitimate and profound interest in the decisions that are made by the Court should try to make certain that their advocacy reflects that complexity. These groups on the right and left should not resort to the sort of broad-brush dogmatic attacks that have hampered the process in the past and constrained each and every Senator in this Chamber from making sure that they are voting on the basis of their conscience.


Thank you very much


Confirmation of Judge John Roberts, Sen. Obama Speech

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Kissing Trump's ass again. sinkingfeeling Dec 2023 #1
Translate this for me like I am 5 years old. MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #2
Yes it helps the clown. It's delay, delay, delay ... aggiesal Dec 2023 #5
I tend to agree, but ... Kennah Dec 2023 #27
As soon as it looks like its going to run into the next election LiberalLovinLug Dec 2023 #97
CNN legal analysts saying it makes Smith's March date for trial all but impossible. Case has to go to Silent Type Dec 2023 #13
This means that the claudette Dec 2023 #45
Possibly not.. getagrip_already Dec 2023 #55
So we now know bluestarone Dec 2023 #3
My reading of the reports liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2023 #36
Over my head. Basic LA Dec 2023 #4
Smith wanted fast-track, Pendejo45 requested delay ... aggiesal Dec 2023 #6
Great summation. Thanks! Basic LA Dec 2023 #8
I think Smith also asked the appeal court to fast-track it, so we will see what happens. JohnSJ Dec 2023 #12
I don't think it's all gloom and doom... agingdem Dec 2023 #20
I hope you are right. This one should be a slam dunk. No one is above the law. JohnSJ Dec 2023 #22
I'm thinking the SC is really skittish about this one... agingdem Dec 2023 #26
I agree with that one. PlutosHeart Dec 2023 #28
I would rather this three quarters bent SC do nothing agingdem Dec 2023 #47
Could be trying to avoid the death threats that inevitability come. rubbersole Dec 2023 #34
Afraid to make precedent, not afraid to toss others' precedent right out the window padah513 Dec 2023 #66
that's true.. agingdem Dec 2023 #69
So, if any prez is totally immune, Joe could have the SS shoot the TFG (or do it himself) and get of scott-free, right? machoneman Dec 2023 #80
Probably... agingdem Dec 2023 #82
They don't care about their approval rating SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #84
I'm pretty sure Chief Justice Roberts cares about agingdem Dec 2023 #95
It would be nice if this were true SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #98
Agree. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #76
Everything I've seen shows that Jack Smith (the Special Counsel - SC) anticipates everything erronis Dec 2023 #49
Hope you're right. elleng Dec 2023 #67
He did. Igel Dec 2023 #83
not a surprise. Anyone who thinks this SC will NOT overturn the Colorado SC removing trump from the ballot JohnSJ Dec 2023 #7
Oh yea the bastards WILL fast track that. bluestarone Dec 2023 #15
Last hope we have is 2024. We are hanging by a thread. JohnSJ Dec 2023 #18
IF they get involved with the Colorado SC decision, then bluestarone Dec 2023 #19
Then get ready to be disappointed - because both are likely to happen in the normal course of events FBaggins Dec 2023 #30
TY for this. (and i know you're 100% correct) It just blows me away bluestarone Dec 2023 #38
Why would they comment? former9thward Dec 2023 #40
You actually believe they agreed? bluestarone Dec 2023 #44
Yes. former9thward Dec 2023 #46
My question. bluestarone Dec 2023 #48
That has never been their practice. former9thward Dec 2023 #52
Well, I do have a hard time believing there was no dessent bluestarone Dec 2023 #54
That's not how it works. AkFemDem Dec 2023 #58
Because they don't need to, that's why. Igel Dec 2023 #86
TY! I was upset, like most here. I'm always thankful for all you smart posters here. bluestarone Dec 2023 #91
I think they will not, and i think this is them throwing donald a bone quakerboy Dec 2023 #57
There are so many cases and appeals EndlessWire Dec 2023 #71
No, these two cases are fundamentally different. Igel Dec 2023 #87
I think the US constitution gives states the whole responsibility and power to operate .......... jaxexpat Dec 2023 #78
They may simply be taking the easy way out. Let the voters decide! machoneman Dec 2023 #81
So letting Trump delay just as Trump wanted. Freethinker65 Dec 2023 #9
Then they don't claudette Dec 2023 #42
This is what makes 6-3 so onerous...they can "rule" by withholding cert. CincyDem Dec 2023 #10
Not really FBaggins Dec 2023 #32
Agree. Unfortunately, their cert dissent won't get a hearing. CincyDem Dec 2023 #56
Maybe they're afraid of death threats too... diva77 Dec 2023 #11
All any Republican knows how BlueKota Dec 2023 #14
It's really is pathetic that SCOTUS won't expedite this motion. iluvtennis Dec 2023 #16
I tend to think that it may actually be faster this way. Igel Dec 2023 #88
Interesting to know where some of the Supremes will be flown to for their holiday vacations Scalded Nun Dec 2023 #17
This! chowder66 Dec 2023 #21
I have to ask here bluestarone Dec 2023 #23
Maybe they agreed Polybius Dec 2023 #25
SCOTUS can't even hammer home a no-brainer gimme bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #24
How much did this cost? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #29
Prepaid. rubbersole Dec 2023 #35
Quelle Surprise. n/t rambler_american Dec 2023 #31
Supreme Court is pay to play. So what bribes did they get for this? Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #33
Santa was generous this year dalton99a Dec 2023 #39
Probably the usual Wash DC bribes. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #62
Is that why there was no dissent ? MichMan Dec 2023 #79
Maybe some inside baseball politics, agendas and agreements. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #85
It appeared that you were accusing Justices Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson of accepting bribes MichMan Dec 2023 #89
This is absurd. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #92
I thought so too MichMan Dec 2023 #93
that has been his mo most of his adult life . outspend using other ppls money delay delay delay and out live . hes 77 AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #37
And there you have it claudette Dec 2023 #41
The Supreme Court hated Demnh2fl Dec 2023 #43
It's possible SCrOTUS merely punted the decision. pfitz59 Dec 2023 #50
Yeah, hopefully the process is: forgotmylogin Dec 2023 #64
There is not enough tomato juice in the world FalloutShelter Dec 2023 #51
Looks like Slappy Thomas is getting a new motor home.... Comfortably_Numb Dec 2023 #53
The whole thing (I am immune but noone else is) was a Trump ploy. GreenWave Dec 2023 #59
Just fucking die already. Solve problems for once. OverBurn Dec 2023 #60
What To Expect? MayReasonRule Dec 2023 #61
Good. Once again SCOTUS is ruling in favor of proper due process, exactly what we want Trump to be held to. CaptainTruth Dec 2023 #63
NO dissents? None? THAT'S surprising. live love laugh Dec 2023 #65
Why? Igel Dec 2023 #90
Seems like who ever Тяцмp is upset with gets death threats KS Toronado Dec 2023 #68
Yeah, they're just too busy... surfered Dec 2023 #70
Not surprising since the DC Appeals court has fast-tracked Trump's appeal Deminpenn Dec 2023 #72
Exactly. This isn't as bad as it seems. Novara Dec 2023 #73
Supreme Court brief states Jack Smith does not have legal standing. RetiredFF Dec 2023 #96
I'll bet the Justices don't want Trump tried before the election and will work towards that end. Kablooie Dec 2023 #74
Disappointing but I wonder intheflow Dec 2023 #75
Obstruction case is a bigger concern duckworth969 Dec 2023 #77
All because of one thing The Grand Illuminist Dec 2023 #94
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