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44. Makes no difference, it's perfectly legal to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre.

Fri Dec 8, 2023, 08:10 PM

Dec 2023

Makes no difference, it's perfectly legal to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre.
The “fire in a crowded theatre” metaphor is lazy, and its pedigree is rooted in a legal decision that is no longer regarded by the Supreme Court of the United States as a solid standard regarding the parameters on freedom of expression. It shouldn’t be used by anyone making a serious case for restrictions on free speech, and free speech absolutists shouldn’t have to waste their time dismantling the expression.

https://speaking-liberally.com/2019/07/14/stop-it-with-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theatre-thing/
https://reason.com/2022/10/27/yes-you-can-yell-fire-in-a-crowded-theater/

Surely you know the statement is "shouting fire in a crowded theatre" and this was an obvious typo.

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Makes no difference, it's perfectly legal to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #44

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