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25. The Question Is So Poorly Framed It Is No Wonder That The Responses Made No Sense

Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:46 AM

Dec 2023

"The criticism focused on the university leaders’ answers to questions on Tuesday about whether calling for the genocide of Jews violates their respective school’s code of conduct on bullying or harassment."

I would expect that calls for genocide of any group, especially Jews, would come under other provisions rather than a code of conduct on bullying or harassment, which has First Amendment considerations.

I do find it surprising that they all fell into the trap where there is little correlation between the premise and policy. Calling for genocide is in the same league when it comes to speech as shouting in a croweded theatre. Neither would be protected.

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A coordinated media campaign from the RNC. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #1

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Outwitted by Rep Elise Stefanik C_U_L8R Dec 2023 #7

Elise Stefanik, the same person that endorsed the guy that dined with Nick Fuentes tenderfoot Dec 2023 #15

They are a disgrace. JohnSJ Dec 2023 #2

According to the New York Times, the Presidents may have been correct spooky3 Dec 2023 #3

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Me waiting for FIRE to chime in Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #4

Interesting -- in the article, FIRE supported the presidents that it depended on the context. LauraInLA Dec 2023 #11

Well, at least they're consistent Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #13

The biggest problem is that they are women. DURHAM D Dec 2023 #8

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No. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #27

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You are saying that women should not be University presidents? Jose Garcia Dec 2023 #32

These assholes need to be fired LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #9

For them to side with fucking genocide and genocide talk directed towards a group is fucking shitty behavior. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #10

Calling for the genocide of of any group should violate any school's code of conduct. Not a free speech issue. elias7 Dec 2023 #14

It's not like allowing genocide calls maintains some sort of balance iemanja Dec 2023 #16

Exactly Mz Pip Dec 2023 #34

What is the general policy? Shermanator Dec 2023 #17

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Did you take a wrong turn somewhere? n/t GP6971 Dec 2023 #19

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I have a neutral position. GP6971 Dec 2023 #21

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Fine. Then I suggest GP6971 Dec 2023 #23

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Stefanik could have honed in on this elias7 Dec 2023 #29

The Question Is So Poorly Framed It Is No Wonder That The Responses Made No Sense DallasNE Dec 2023 #25

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What? Shouting in a crowded theatre is not protected speech? Abolishinist Dec 2023 #37

Stop being a butt DallasNE Dec 2023 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Dec 2023 #42

Makes no difference, it's perfectly legal to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #44

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This is the correct answer. yardwork Dec 2023 #38

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They just won't say anything that might endanger that alumni money, will they? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2023 #33

Too late for that: EX500rider Dec 2023 #40

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These will be used by Republicans as campaign fodder against higher education LeftInTX Dec 2023 #36