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In reply to the discussion: Payrolls rose by 209,000 in June, less than expected, as jobs growth wobbles [View all]BumRushDaShow
(162,156 posts)10. It's 2 different data sets
ADP is "private sector" employment with data gathered from their own member payroll surveys.
Methodology noted from their release (PDF) - https://adp-ri-nrip-static.adp.com/artifacts/us_ner/20230706/ADP_NATIONAL_EMPLOYMENT_REPORT_Press_Release_2023_06%20FINAL.pdf
About the ADP® National Employment ReportTM
The ADP National Employment Report is an independent estimate of the change in U.S. private
employment and pay derived from actual, anonymized payroll data of client companies served by ADP, a
leading provider of human capital management solutions. The report is produced by ADP Research Institute
in collaboration with the Stanford Digital Economy Lab.
The ADP National Employment Report is an independent estimate of the change in U.S. private
employment and pay derived from actual, anonymized payroll data of client companies served by ADP, a
leading provider of human capital management solutions. The report is produced by ADP Research Institute
in collaboration with the Stanford Digital Economy Lab.
Alternately, BLS has surveys that are returned monthly that are aggregated for the releases -
Economic News Release
PRINT : Print
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CES CES Program Links
Employment Situation Summary
Transmission of material in this news release is embargoed until USDL-23-1498
8:30 a.m. (ET) Friday, July 7, 2023
Technical information:
Household data: (202) 691-6378 * cpsinfo@bls.gov * www.bls.gov/cps
Establishment data: (202) 691-6555 * cesinfo@bls.gov * www.bls.gov/ces
Media contact: (202) 691-5902 * PressOffice@bls.gov
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- JUNE 2023
Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 209,000 in June, and the unemployment
rate changed little at 3.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.
Employment continued to trend up in government, health care, social assistance, and
construction.
This news release presents statistics from two monthly surveys. The household survey
measures labor force status, including unemployment, by demographic characteristics.
The establishment survey measures nonfarm employment, hours, and earnings by industry.
For more information about the concepts and statistical methodology used in these two
surveys, see the Technical Note.
(snip)
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
PRINT : Print
CPS CPS Program Links
CES CES Program Links
Employment Situation Summary
Transmission of material in this news release is embargoed until USDL-23-1498
8:30 a.m. (ET) Friday, July 7, 2023
Technical information:
Household data: (202) 691-6378 * cpsinfo@bls.gov * www.bls.gov/cps
Establishment data: (202) 691-6555 * cesinfo@bls.gov * www.bls.gov/ces
Media contact: (202) 691-5902 * PressOffice@bls.gov
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- JUNE 2023
Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 209,000 in June, and the unemployment
rate changed little at 3.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.
Employment continued to trend up in government, health care, social assistance, and
construction.
This news release presents statistics from two monthly surveys. The household survey
measures labor force status, including unemployment, by demographic characteristics.
The establishment survey measures nonfarm employment, hours, and earnings by industry.
For more information about the concepts and statistical methodology used in these two
surveys, see the Technical Note.
(snip)
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
In some cases, the data to be factored in may be delayed by senders for various reasons (holidays, etc), requiring revisions to account for that at the next release.
So ADP is strictly "establishment" and counting "payroll" where BLS is looking at both "people" (and their reported "status" ) and a set of establishments (and their hiring/layoff decisions).
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Payrolls rose by 209,000 in June, less than expected, as jobs growth wobbles [View all]
Joe Cool
Jul 2023
OP
Yesterday's job news was off the charts - we need to balance it with more tepid job numbers...
Probatim
Jul 2023
#2
And the ADP only does 20% of the nation's payroll. The other 80% is an estimate based on
progree
Jul 2023
#13
I see your graph disappeared. It uses to be that copying and pasting a BLS graph's URL
progree
Jul 2023
#34
This story is directly contradicted by story from the same source here:
Fiendish Thingy
Jul 2023
#15
OK, the big difference between 497,000 private sector jobs and 209,000 total jobs
progree
Jul 2023
#19
I didn't have much of a problem myself with it, except I wouldn't use "wobbly" for today's
progree
Jul 2023
#24